Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins vs. 49ers) (Thread is Open)

[CrustyRedskin]

Helu 14 catches and barley 100yds recieving(105), geeeesh we suck in all. Just retire London, you dont have to go through anymore of this crap.

[Chico23231]

Beck - bad play...go back to Rex I guess ? dunno

Redskins receivers- Lotta drops out there...Austin, Davis stick out in my mind

Silverback- just really bad penalties

Brandon Banks- He's officially on the cut list now

Rocky - miss tackles, blown assignments. wow it just keeps getting worse...need a major upgrade

Reed - enough is enough

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Beck - bad play...go back to Rex I guess ? dunno

Redskins receivers- Lotta drops out there...Austin, Davis stick out in my mind

Silverback- just really bad penalties

Brandon Banks- He's officially on the cut list now

Rocky - miss tackles, blown assignments. wow it just keeps getting worse...need a major upgrade

Reed - enough is enough

This won't be a problem once Atogwe returns, though the bigger issue is will Atogwe ever be healthy. Doughty is not a FS and I don't understand why the team insist in putting this guy at FS when he doesn't have the coverage skills.

You can only b*tch about a player so much, but at certain point the coaches' fault must be addressed. Doughty's situation is very similar to Rabach, well except that Rabach was an actual starter. The guy can't cover and one of the biggest issue with this defense has been the lack of a true cover safety. Why does Haslett insist on putting him out there when Atogwe is out?

[mredskins]

The scary part about all of this is the Shanahan's had Beck rated the highest on their draft the year he came out!!!!!!! If that doesn't scary you about their ability to rate passer coupled with how they basically passed on a ton of QB talent in the last draft. I have been a big believer in them but they have royal fawked up the QB position which was suppose to be their specialty.

How about Carlos Rogers, ever have a bad job then got a good job but went back to visit your friends at the bad job just to say hi and you left smiling knowing you don't have to work in that shit hole anymore, that is great feeling. That was how Carlos felt yesterday.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by mredskins

The scary part about all of this is the Shanahan's had Beck rated the highest on their draft the year he came out!!!!!!! If that doesn't scary you about their ability to rate passer coupled with how they basically passed on a ton of QB talent in the last draft. I have been a big believer in them but they have royal fawked up the QB position which was suppose to be their specialty.

How about Carlos Rogers, ever have a bad job then got a good job but went back to visit your friends at the bad job just to say hi and you left smiling knowing you don't have to work in that shit hole anymore, that is great feeling. That was how Carlos felt yesterday.

Most QB grades are limited in what they can judge about what goes on in the head, hence, they focus on the more physical aspects of QB play. Going by the limited info they had, they thought Beck show more than his peers, who were also quite awful in retrospect.

Beck, for all his flaws, can least develop into some sort of backup. That's more than what you can say about JaMarcus and Quinn. Korn on the Kolb is better than Beck right now, but Kolb also folds real quick when dealing with pressure, and laughably failed to own us despite having TWO chances. Drew Stanton - haven't heard from him. Trent Edwards only had one good half a season, and couldn't even beat out Kyle Boller(ok, Al Davis was a flaky dude sometimes, but still).

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Most QB grades are limited in what they can judge about what goes on in the head, hence, they focus on the more physical aspects of QB play. Going by the limited info they had, they thought Beck show more than his peers, who were also quite awful in retrospect.

Beck, for all his flaws, can least develop into some sort of backup. That's more than what you can say about JaMarcus and Quinn. Korn on the Kolb is better than Beck right now, but Kolb also folds real quick when dealing with pressure, and laughably failed to own us despite having TWO chances. Drew Stanton - haven't heard from him. Trent Edwards only had one good half a season, and couldn't even beat out Kyle Boller(ok, Al Davis was a flaky dude sometimes, but still).

That was a good way of looking at so I guess Beck was not the worst pick in that draft and probably was one of the better. But it is also like saying he was the hottest chick at fat camp.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by mredskins

The scary part about all of this is the Shanahan's had Beck rated the highest on their draft the year he came out!!!!!!! If that doesn't scary you about their ability to rate passer coupled with how they basically passed on a ton of QB talent in the last draft. I have been a big believer in them but they have royal fawked up the QB position which was suppose to be their specialty.

How about Carlos Rogers, ever have a bad job then got a good job but went back to visit your friends at the bad job just to say hi and you left smiling knowing you don't have to work in that shit hole anymore, that is great feeling. That was how Carlos felt yesterday.

As I said elsewhere Mike's talent evaluation is laughable. Same can be said for his ability to motivate, clock management, organization, game preparedness and scheme.

Los deserves to be where he's at and I really hope JC recovers from injury and gets another shot to start (somewhere).

Eff you gotta feel bad for Fletcher. I wish he could end his career w/ a great franchise, maybe even a contender. Nobody deserves another ring as much as he does.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by The Goat

As I said elsewhere Mike's talent evaluation is laughable. Same can be said for his ability to motivate, clock management, organization, game preparedness and scheme.

Los deserves to be where he's at and I really hope JC recovers from injury and gets another shot to start (somewhere).

Eff you gotta feel bad for Fletcher. I wish he could end his career w/ a great franchise, maybe even a contender. Nobody deserves another ring as much as he does.

Well, he did "discover" Tony Romo, but Romo picked Dallas over Denver. And we have had one of our better drafts this offseason.

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by mredskins

The scary part about all of this is the Shanahan's had Beck rated the highest on their draft the year he came out!!!!!!! If that doesn't scary you about their ability to rate passer coupled with how they basically passed on a ton of QB talent in the last draft. I have been a big believer in them but they have royal fawked up the QB position which was suppose to be their specialty.

How about Carlos Rogers, ever have a bad job then got a good job but went back to visit your friends at the bad job just to say hi and you left smiling knowing you don't have to work in that shit hole anymore, that is great feeling. That was how Carlos felt yesterday.

sweet analogy!

[SmootSmack]

Well, look first off who knows how true that really and secondly a lot of teams had Beck highly rated. Many thought he'd be a mid to late first round pick. So it's not like they're saying they had Jeff Rowe rated as their top QB that year

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well, look first off who knows how true that really and secondly a lot of teams had Beck highly rated. Many thought he'd be a mid to late first round pick. So it's not like they're saying they had Jeff Rowe rated as their top QB that year

I hear you and I have been a big MS support but of late it has been hard to be loving the guy and this franchise.

I guess I am just disappointed. I feel like a poor kid on Christmas with no toys every Sunday, everyone around me (Raven fans mainly) normal happy and enjoying their football Sunday or at least have exciting games to watch. It is just so painful to watch this team on offense.

[MTK]

Not a fan of Beck but to me there's no point in going back to Grossman either. Neither guy is the answer here, maybe Grossman gives you a better chance at winning another game or two, but what does that accomplish? I say give Beck the rest of the season to see if he can improve at all.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Not a fan of Beck but to me there's no point in going back to Grossman either. Neither guy is the answer here, maybe Grossman gives you a better chance at winning another game or two, but what does that accomplish? I say give Beck the rest of the season to see if he can improve at all.

Starting Grossman is at least going to help the wr's in the passing game. Beck simply has no feel for the passing game farther than 10 yards.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Starting Grossman is at least going to help the wr's in the passing game. Beck simply has no feel for the passing game farther than 10 yards.

True I'll give you that, if playing Grossman helps in being able to better evaluate the WRs, then I can accept going that route.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Starting Grossman is at least going to help the wr's in the passing game. Beck simply has no feel for the passing game farther than 10 yards.

Yes, this is exactly it. I love the youth movement that we saw yesterday but Beck being so completely inept is going to stunt the growth of all our young offensive players. Beck is NOT our future QB so why are we going to go through growing pains grooming him? Inbetween his turnovers Rex will run the offense properly and get the ball to our WR's when they are open. Rex is terrible...I never thought i would want him back in there but Beck is not even an NFL QB. His only scoring drives since he started playing are garbage time drives. It seemed like yesterday he was determined not to be sacked 10 times so he was just checking the ball down imediately before anything developed.

And I was there yesterday...so I saw the whole field on every play...this is not Kyle...we had open WR's all over the field. This is a QB problem...