2012 QB Prospects (Part 2)

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Well i am all for signing him, even if he has to play with a cane. As far as teaching, he looks like a bad teacher, just look at Curtis Painter.

Wisdom of teaching can only go as far as physical ability can take you. A 1st round QB draftee will have a much higher physical skill set than Curtis Painter.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Do yourself a favor and stop hoping that we'll somehow be able to trade for Luck. You'll be greatly disappointed.

The Colts have been secretly (if obviously) "sucking for Luck" for most of the season. He is the perfect successor to Peyton Manning, either now or later. It's a damned disgrace, if you ask me. They are just now making the change from Painter to Orlovsky (as if that will help any). When the Colts passed on picking up Orton on waivers, that should have told you all you needed to know about their intentions.

I'm sure you know more about Landry than I do, but I like him as a prospect. He may be inconsistent at times, but he has big-time talent. Sometimes I think that the reason OU fans knock him is because he's not Sam Bradford. Well, he can't help that - but he can work to improve once he gets to the pros.

I'm sure Jim Caldwell will be asked that as he is sitting at home during the nfl draft w/out a job.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I would not give that up, IMO Barkley will be just as good as Luck. Luck is just more athletic. I say stay where we end up. If Barkley or RGIII falls to us pull the trigger, if not, Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson would look good in a Skins jersey.

I don't want the Redskins to trade up in the Draft. We have other holes to fill and it will be nice having 2 extra picks this year.

I am with you on this. If when we pick Luck, Barkley, or RGIII is not availaible Claiborne is at the top of my list. He would be # 1, Hall # 2, Wilson # 3, that would be a solid group of cb's. I also agree you on Richardson too, I believe I have him at 9th on my top 10 Redskins big board. He can fit any system he is a beast. Helu is looking awesome but in this day and age a lot of teams have 2 good rbs that rotate in and Richardson is talented.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I don't want the Redskins to trade up in the Draft. We have other holes to fill and it will be nice having 2 extra picks this year.

I am with you on this. If when we pick Luck, Barkley, or RGIII is not availaible Claiborne is at the top of my list. He would be # 1, Hall # 2, Wilson # 3, that would be a solid group of cb's. I also agree you on Richardson too, I believe I have him at 9th on my top 10 Redskins big board. He can fit any system he is a beast. Helu is looking awesome but in this day and age a lot of teams have 2 good rbs that rotate in and Richardson is talented.

We have had alot of holes for 20 years. We need a Qb. When you have a good QB holes become miraculously filled. We need to fill holes with mid level free agents, like Ozzy Newsome does every year, so he can go into the draft and do what he wants.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

We have had alot of holes for 20 years. We need a Qb. When you have a good QB holes become miraculously filled. We need to fill holes with mid level free agents, like Ozzy Newsome does every year, so he can go into the draft and do what he wants.

Agree 100% I'm tired of hearing of all the holes we need to fill Before we take a QB. Time is now

[sdskinsfan2001]

I do want a quarterback. I said draft Luck, Barkley or RGIII if they are availaible.

But to trade into the top 3 would take a lot of draft choices, and I hate when teams trade away their next year's first round draft choice. This QB class is pretty deep and we could get a guy like Foles, Tanehill, etc. etc. in the 2nd round without giving away tons of our picks.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I think the Colts strategy is genius. Sure Manning may come back for awhile and perform at a high level, and he will be able to mentor Luck during that time and ready him for the big stage.

It's too bad our coaching staff doesn't have this kind of foresight. It seems like we're "reactive" to circumstances rather than proactive...

What foresight is that?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What foresight is that?

The foresight to plan Peyton Manning's neck injury to occur right before the season in which the best pro-prospect (who could have gone pro a year ago, after Manning's neck issue was already present) since Elway is going to be #1 overall. Come on Smoot. 2 days away from ESPN and you're already behind on this stuff?

[SmootSmack]

I'm such an outsider now

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I do want a quarterback. I said draft Luck, Barkley or RGIII if they are availaible.

But to trade into the top 3 would take a lot of draft choices, and I hate when teams trade away their next year's first round draft choice. This QB class is pretty deep and we could get a guy like Foles, Tanehill, etc. etc. in the 2nd round without giving away tons of our picks.

My guess would be next years first and this years second to move from 6 to 2. It would be worth it to get Barkely. We will be fine, if he pans out. Just look at the Bears, with Cutler. NFC championship and gave a kings ranson for him. Our team right now would have been 10-6 if we had a real QB. We have a 1,2,3,4,4,5,6,6,7, for 2012 and for 2013 we have 1,2,3,4,5,5,6,6,7. Not sure if we have to give the Cardinals anything for Hightower. We would still be able to add a bunch of quality rookies. They would be able to help plenty if they keep drafting like they have the last two years. Riley, Williams(very underrated by Redskins fans), Kerrigan, Jenkins, Hankerson, Helu, Paul, Gomes, Nield and Hurt. I give them a A plus. So I say get us a QB. Get us Barkley, he is 21.

[SmootSmack]

Owe Arizona a 6th for Hightower

And the 2013 6th from Minnesota was conditional and looks unlikely now

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Owe Arizona a 6th for Hightower

And the 2013 6th from Minnesota was conditional and looks unlikely now

I never heard that the McNab trade was conditional

[SmootSmack]

Part of it was

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Our line is actually solid it's not great but its better than AVG.. Our problem is we have NO QB and NO WRs lol if Wrs cant get open its hard to block all game.

We have a BIG TIME LT who proves it week in and out and a solid RT again give us a real QB and see what happens

I am with you. I like Hurt and think that we need another RT to groom and we are set, as long as Kory L. comes back strong

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I am with you. I like Hurt and think that we need another RT to groom and we are set, as long as Kory L. comes back strong

We need depth. Look what happened when our starters got hurt on the line. We fell off the map....