Matt Barkley Stays (QB Draft Prospect Thread-Episode IV)

SmootSmack · 12-23-2011, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

No. Not here. On another forum. One of three guys on another site that give out pretty much identical info to you at times. There are 4 guys that I know of that have insider type info and you are one of them. Probably some of the same connections.

I see. Well I've had heard some rumors pertaining to Peyton Manning but nothing that legitimately suggest the Redskins being all that interested. Not from what I've heard at least.

I'll just go ahead and tell you guys since it seems to be a false rumor anyway. Well not a false rumor but one that's not such a big deal, plus it's the holidays. One of the guys I was talking about was Jimmy Clausen.

I dropped the clue right in here http://www.thewarpath.net/869792-post110.html

Anyway, it was more of a "Clausen might be available this offseason for cheap, maybe even for nothing. He could be a good choice to bring in"

But from doing a bit more gathering, it seems like that would be more of a due diligence "how can you not at least consider the option, especially if it costs us nothing" move

But I'll keep the other name quiet a little longer. It would be potentially be a franchise altering move.

Chico23231 · 12-23-2011, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I see. Well I've had heard some rumors pertaining to Peyton Manning but nothing that legitimately suggest the Redskins being all that interested. Not from what I've heard at least.

I'll just go ahead and tell you guys since it seems to be a false rumor anyway. Well not a false rumor but one that's not such a big deal, plus it's the holidays. One of the guys I was talking about was Jimmy Clausen.

I dropped the clue right in here http://www.thewarpath.net/869792-post110.html

Anyway, it was more of a "Clausen might be available this offseason for cheap, maybe even for nothing. He could be a good choice to bring in"

But from doing a bit more gathering, it seems like that would be more of a due diligence "how can you not at least consider the option, especially if it costs us nothing" move

But I'll keep the other name quiet a little longer. It would be potentially be a franchise altering move.

thanks for insight SS. Clausen would be a cheap, little risk move. Wouldnt be against it.

If you say "franchise altering" I imagine the type of QB would be an established, franchise QB. Is that right?

SmootSmack · 12-23-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

thanks for insight SS. Clausen would be a cheap, little risk move. Wouldnt be against it.

If you say "franchise altering" I imagine the type of QB would be an established, franchise QB. Is that right?

Well, "franchise altering" in that he probably wouldn't be a cheap acquisition.

NC_Skins · 12-23-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well, "franchise altering" in that he probably wouldn't be a cheap acquisition.

I'm still trying to figure which idiot franchise would get rid of their franchise QB?? Did Vinny get hired on as GM somewhere? They most likely have tons of faith in their backup or whoever they plan to draft to replace that person.

SFREDSKIN · 12-23-2011, 11:19 AM

I would give Clausen a try, I've suggested this in the past, also Brady Quinn. They can't be worse than Beck and have shown some flashes, I think with the right coaching they could be better like Alex Smith.

SmootSmack · 12-23-2011, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I would give Clausen a try, I've suggested this in the past, also Brady Quinn. They can't be worse than Beck and have shown some flashes, I think with the right coaching they could be better like Alex Smith.

I'm curious what will happen with Quinn. He had a good summer and seems to have maybe restored his reputation a bit.

NC_Skins · 12-23-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I see. Well I've had heard some rumors pertaining to Peyton Manning but nothing that legitimately suggest the Redskins being all that interested. Not from what I've heard at least.

I'll just go ahead and tell you guys since it seems to be a false rumor anyway. Well not a false rumor but one that's not such a big deal, plus it's the holidays. One of the guys I was talking about was Jimmy Clausen.

That insider said that it (the intel) was based off the fact that if both RGIII and Barkley stayed in school, which appears to be the case. I quoted him directly to the info he got on the Peyton thing. They bring in PM as a FA, and draft somebody like Tannehill.

Clausen? Meh.... I want to say couldn't be worse than Beck, but then realized it probably could be.

SmootSmack · 12-23-2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

That insider said that it (the intel) was based off the fact that if both RGIII and Barkley stayed in school, which appears to be the case. I quoted him directly to the info he got on the Peyton thing. They bring in PM as a FA, and draft somebody like Tannehill.

Clausen? Meh.... I want to say could it be worse than Beck, but then realized it probably could be.

Ha! Someone else is also now suggesting Tannehill? As for RGIII I was certain in October he was staying, then around Thanksgiving I heard otherwise. It just keeps going back and forth with him. I really have no idea anymore if he's staying or not.

I don't think anyone could be worse than Beck

I think I said the guy I'm talking about is young (not Young, just young) so I don't believe Manning fits that mold

Chico23231 · 12-23-2011, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Ha! Someone else is also now suggesting Tannehill? As for RGIII I was certain in October he was staying, then around Thanksgiving I heard otherwise. It just keeps going back and forth with him. I really have no idea anymore if he's staying or not.

I don't think anyone could be worse than Beck

I think I said the guy I'm talking about is young (not Young, just young) so I don't believe Manning fits that mold

Cutler or Freeman would be my guess...my wishful thinking guess would be Rivers, Id give multiple 1sts for him. I would only think Norv would have to go in order for that to happen. I really hope its not Sanchise or Fitzpatrick

SFREDSKIN · 12-23-2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Cutler or Freeman would be my guess...my wishful thinking guess would be Rivers, Id give multiple 1sts for him. I would only think Norv would have to go in order for that to happen. I really hope its not Sanchise or Fitzpatrick

I'll say it again, I would take Sanchez in a heartbeat, with the right coaching he could turn out to be what has been expected all along.

Alvin Walton · 12-23-2011, 11:36 AM

Theres no way I want to break the bank for an existing QB with a few years on him.
I'd rather start fresh on the draft.

NC_Skins · 12-23-2011, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Theres no way I want to break the bank for an existing QB with a few years on him.
I'd rather start fresh on the draft.

If you are referencing the Manning rumor, I just want to point out that the insider said if this was on condition of the following:

1) Indy cut Peyton and he become a FA
2) RGIII and Barkley didn't declare

Not sure you would be breaking the bank on Manning as a Free Agent really, and give him just enough contract years to groom a QB you choose to draft during that time. I would be fine with this scenario as long as it didn't mean us giving draft picks.

Now not sure about the rumor Smoot is talking about in regards to "franchise altering", but he did mention that the QB was young so I would gather he had more than just a "few" years left.

NC_Skins · 12-23-2011, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Ha! Someone else is also now suggesting Tannehill? As for RGIII I was certain in October he was staying, then around Thanksgiving I heard otherwise. It just keeps going back and forth with him. I really have no idea anymore if he's staying or not.

Yeah, that guy has said earlier in the year that the front office was high on RGIII and Tannehill. Not so much in Barkley. I think RGIII's decision will have a big impact on team's plans. I think if RGIII is there, we draft him.

1)RGIII stays. Rams end up with #1, we trade for Bradford. They draft Luck.
2) RGIII stays. Colts end up with #1, we draft a developmental QB in 2nd round and bring in a Peyton Manning(if healthy) if he is cut by the Colts.
3) RGIII declares. We move up in the draft to select him #2.

These are the few scenarios I see going down. Hopefully options 1 or 3 don't cost us too much.

SFREDSKIN · 12-23-2011, 05:39 PM

If we don't get Luck or RGIII, I would trade down and go get Foles.

Hail to the Redskins · 12-23-2011, 05:46 PM

Didn't the Colts owner just come out and say that if Manning plays in 2012, it will be with the Colts?

I'd say there is .00001% chance Manning will be with the Redskins next year.

The whole Sam Bradford thing is interesting... but I just don't see them dumping him after 2 seasons with a terrible supporting cast.

Is there any heat around Jake Locker? That's who I wanted the Skins to get this past draft... I like him and think he'd be a good fit for the system... I doubt the Titans have any interest in moving him... but it's a name no one has said yet... lol

12-23-2011, 11:19 AM	#5
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Matt Barkley Stays (QB Draft Prospect Thread-Episode IV) I would give Clausen a try, I've suggested this in the past, also Brady Quinn. They can't be worse than Beck and have shown some flashes, I think with the right coaching they could be better like Alex Smith. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

12-23-2011, 11:36 AM	#11
Alvin Walton Pro Bowl Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Holland, Michigan Posts: 5,741	Re: Matt Barkley Stays (QB Draft Prospect Thread-Episode IV) Theres no way I want to break the bank for an existing QB with a few years on him. I'd rather start fresh on the draft. __________________ REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968

12-23-2011, 05:39 PM	#14
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Matt Barkley Stays (QB Draft Prospect Thread-Episode IV) If we don't get Luck or RGIII, I would trade down and go get Foles. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

12-23-2011, 05:46 PM	#15
Hail to the Redskins The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,687	Re: Matt Barkley Stays (QB Draft Prospect Thread-Episode IV) Didn't the Colts owner just come out and say that if Manning plays in 2012, it will be with the Colts? I'd say there is .00001% chance Manning will be with the Redskins next year. The whole Sam Bradford thing is interesting... but I just don't see them dumping him after 2 seasons with a terrible supporting cast. Is there any heat around Jake Locker? That's who I wanted the Skins to get this past draft... I like him and think he'd be a good fit for the system... I doubt the Titans have any interest in moving him... but it's a name no one has said yet... lol __________________ “Sometimes it is not enough to our best; we must do what is required.” - Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

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