Roster transition in the Shanny era

[SmootSmack]

As far as most people are concerned, no one else matters but Carlos Rogers and Andre Carter. Those two players are the poster children for why "former Redskins ALWAYS go to to other teams and have so much success"

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

As far as most people are concerned, no one else matters but Carlos Rogers and Andre Carter. Those two players are the poster children for why "former Redskins ALWAYS go to to other teams and have so much success"

Don't forget Chad Rinehart.

As I said in another thread, MS/BA have not been spectacular in talent acquistion/management. But for their mismanagement of the QB position (a big "but for" I acknowledge), I would suggest they have been solid. Good acquisitions have been made. The 2011 draft has the potential to be a foundation for this team for years to come and may be the best one since 1981.

Plenty of players go from one team to another and succeed. It happens. The question is - are you developing young players to provide the depth needed when players leave. In the past, under Cerrato/Snyder/Gibbs, I would suggest we did not do that. It appears, to me, that we now are trying to do that.

I think this off-season will tell us a lot about whether the Paintrain (there has been a plan from the beginning) or the GTripp (No plan or management, just reaction to events) school of thought is in place.

In my humble opinion, the team Gibbs took to the play-offs hung around too long under Zorn. Had Gibbs coached it another year, perhaps the 6-0 streak would not have been a mirage (I personally think it was more the result of a Gibbs hangover rather than anything Zorn did or didn't do). Unfortunately, Zorn/Cerrato simply couldn't manage the team that Gibbs built and it was allowed to continue with the inmates (including Cerrato) running the asylum.

I agree with Paintrain that Shanahan came in and said, essentially, "Let's see what we got." At that point, I think a lot of us felt that that team had the talent to win. We were wrong (Actually, at that point, and IMHO, it may have had the talent to be a winner, but it certainly didn't have the "personality" of one - for lack of a better term). MS should have blown it up immediately. At the same time, I have a hard time holding that against MS/BA when so many folks seem to think he was inheriting a talented team.

Frustrating as they have been, I will not count the last two seasons as a waste so long as the 2012 offseason continues to build upon the 2011 offseason - solid, not necessarily spectacular, acquisitions; continuing to show a belief that throwing lots of darts on draft day is the best way to succeed; and a focus on the offense through both free agency and the draft.

As I have said elsewhere, if our 2012 off season mirrors our 2011 off season in terms of talent managment, I think we will have the foundation for a truly competitive team (play-offs and better) for years to come.

Wait - - I just realized I typed that whole spiel with my rose-colored glasses on. Let me try it again with my "GTripp Glasses" instead ....

Oh, crap - were doomed.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

As far as most people are concerned, no one else matters but Carlos Rogers and Andre Carter. Those two players are the poster children for why "former Redskins ALWAYS go to to other teams and have so much success"

well, unless we were going back to a 4-3, AC had to go. he was great in SF until they moved him to LB... that's why he ended up here in the first place. The move to a 3-4 probably wasn't a wise choice just based on the talent we had available, but now the personnel fits the 3-4 so great 4-3 players that can't make the move gots ta go. It sucks to give up a pro bowler, but he would've sucked here.

rogers we should have kept, since he was the best corner on the market... but he was frustrated with the skins and asking for way too much money (hence him finally taking a 1 year deal), so that may have been out of the skins control. I would have rather dropped hall and kept him though, and that's not revisionist history, it's what I said this time last year.

The QB thing has really been awful though, and there really haven't been a ton of good available starting QBs, but beck was a huge mistake (he's failed 3 times, so... he must be great!) and DM stopped caring about football, so I'm not sure if that was a lack of research or something that just happened, but that was a huge loss (cheap money wise, but thinking you've got a QB when you don't and blowing a #2 pick on him is BAD).

outside of that, it's been fine.