Drafting at 6? A trade with Cincy makes sense

[backrow]

Originally Posted by chrisl13

Only trade Shannahan should be making is trading up. Don't mess around another year and not draft a young qb. We have been doing that since Jason Campbell. I need for them to realize that drafting a qb is an urgent need and should be done. Get RG3 and stop the games.

Not only do I disagree, I strongly disagree. We need quality depth all over the board. Anyone else see the hurting the Pats put on the Broncos, all because of depth? I prefer a Kerrigan trade down to net more picks. How did that work out again?

[chrisl13]

Originally Posted by backrow

Not only do I disagree, I strongly disagree. We need quality depth all over the board. Anyone else see the hurting the Pats put on the Broncos, all because of depth? I prefer a Kerrigan trade down to net more picks. How did that work out again?

No, the Pats beat the Broncos so badly because they have a stud at the qb position and the broncos do not.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by chrisl13

No, the Pats beat the Broncos so badly because they have a stud at the qb position and the broncos do not.

Bingo. And unlike the Patriots, the likelihood of us finding a franchise diamond in the rough like Brady in the 6th round because we trade back isn't going to happen...

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by chrisl13

No, the Pats beat the Broncos so badly because they have a stud at the qb position and the broncos do not.

Well, Brady also has stud receivers and tight ends to throw to (Welker, Gronkowski, Hernandez.) I still have high hopes for Tim Tebow next year.

[chrisl13]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Well, Brady also has stud receivers and tight ends to throw to (Welker, Gronkowski, Hernandez.) I still have high hopes for Tim Tebow next year.

We all know Brady is the main ingredient in their success though.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Well, Brady also has stud receivers and tight ends to throw to (Welker, Gronkowski, Hernandez.) I still have high hopes for Tim Tebow next year.

Who were his stud WRs when he was winning those 3 Super Bowls? And Welker's best year before going to NE was 687 yards.

[SkinItup]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Who were his stud WRs when he was winning those 3 Super Bowls? And Welker's best year before going to NE was 687 yards.

His stud WR then were his defensive players. They had a great defense to help brady win then. Now their O is better but the D is shit. Go ravens!

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by SkinItup

His stud WR then were his defensive players. They had a great defense to help brady win then. Now their O is better but the D is shit. Go ravens!

The Ravens Offense is no better then the Pats Defense. the pat's D need only had to worry about two offenses in these playoffs: NO and GB. the next scary one for them would be a hot Elli and company.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Who were his stud WRs when he was winning those 3 Super Bowls? And Welker's best year before going to NE was 687 yards.

Those Super Bowls were all very close wins that could have went the other way, and their one super bowl loss only gave them 17 points in that ball game.

Wes Welker is rated one of, if not THE top receiver in the league right now. Rob Gronkowski is a complete beast. And Hernandez always seems to make a clutch catch. Brady's got some weapons to throw to. I'm not saying Brady is nothing without good receivers - everybody knows Brady is a future Hall of Famer, but come on, look at the quality players he's got around him. Stick Tom Brady on a team like the Jaguars or the Rams and see how well he does.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Those Super Bowls were all very close wins that could have went the other way, and their one super bowl loss only gave them 17 points in that ball game.

Wes Welker is rated one of, if not THE top receiver in the league right now. Rob Gronkowski is a complete beast. And Hernandez always seems to make a clutch catch. Brady's got some weapons to throw to. I'm not saying Brady is nothing without good receivers - everybody knows Brady is a future Hall of Famer, but come on, look at the quality players he's got around him. Stick Tom Brady on a team like the Jaguars or the Rams and see how well he does.

Well by that same token, stick Welker on the Jaguars and let's see how well he does

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Those Super Bowls were all very close wins that could have went the other way, and their one super bowl loss only gave them 17 points in that ball game.

Wes Welker is rated one of, if not THE top receiver in the league right now. Rob Gronkowski is a complete beast. And Hernandez always seems to make a clutch catch. Brady's got some weapons to throw to. I'm not saying Brady is nothing without good receivers - everybody knows Brady is a future Hall of Famer, but come on, look at the quality players he's got around him. Stick Tom Brady on a team like the Jaguars or the Rams and see how well he does.

Tom Brady went 12-4 and to the playoffs in 2006 throwing to a whole bunch of mediocre TEs and receivers.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by chrisl13

No, the Pats beat the Broncos so badly because they have a stud at the qb position and the broncos do not.

The Broncos WRs would be all world playing in New England.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

The Broncos WRs would be all world playing in New England.

No. Only with 10 other all pros can a QB succeed in the NFL. QB's need like 10 minutes to throw and all the defensive lineman are secretly allowed to take steroids and HGH.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by backrow

Not only do I disagree, I strongly disagree. We need quality depth all over the board. Anyone else see the hurting the Pats put on the Broncos, all because of depth? I prefer a Kerrigan trade down to net more picks. How did that work out again?

It remains to be seen. Kerrigan is a solid player but probably not a franchise type (defensive player). We don't know anything about Jenkins and precious little about Hankerson. Helu should be a solid rotation back if he can stay healthy.

Mike's 2011 draft could turn out to be very good, but it's hardly a foregone conclusion.