NFL taking away Redskins cap space

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Much like Al Davis couldn't have sued the league because the Tuck Rule was dumb. Well, he could have sued but it would have been thrown out.

Problem with that analogy is that the Tuck Rule was, you know, the rule. What we did was also the rule and they're trying to retroactively punish us for following the rules. Again, the analogy would be punishing the Pats for benifitting from the rule that was in place at the time.

If this goes to court, the NFL would have to get on the stand and admit that they are punishing us for not going along with collusion. I don't know how they think they can get away with that.

I also don't know how they think they can punish us the full amount of the Haynesworth and Hall bonuses, but the Bears are in fact rewarded with extra cap space in spite of the way they did the Peppers contract.

This whole thing is outright lunacy.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by biffle

I also don't know how they think they can punish us the full amount of the Haynesworth and Hall bonuses, but the Bears are in fact rewarded with extra cap space in spite of the way they did the Peppers contract.

This whole thing is outright lunacy.

It's been ridiculously inconsistent, which is why I expect that if the Redskins push hard enough, the league will give it up.

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It's been ridiculously inconsistent, which is why I expect that if the Redskins push hard enough, the league will give it up.

Yeah, my guess would be that we agree to some some minor, token penalty so the league can save face and we can stay on everyone's good side.

But then I can't figure what the league was doing. They basically gave away 160 mil in cap to the union to get this, plus I assume they're going to have to continue to give those teams the 1.6 mil. That's a lot to give up not knowing if this punishment was going to stand. And they must have seen the Redskin reaction and the enforcement problems coming. Or one would think.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by biffle

Problem with that analogy is that the Tuck Rule was, you know, the rule. What we did was also the rule and they're trying to retroactively punish us for following the rules. Again, the analogy would be punishing the Pats for benifitting from the rule that was in place at the time.

If this goes to court, the NFL would have to get on the stand and admit that they are punishing us for not going along with collusion. I don't know how they think they can get away with that.

I also don't know how they think they can punish us the full amount of the Haynesworth and Hall bonuses, but the Bears are in fact rewarded with extra cap space in spite of the way they did the Peppers contract.

This whole thing is outright lunacy.

That's one reason why this will likely never go to court. Another is that owners (excepting Al Davis, once) don't bite the hand that feeds them by suing the NFL.

There are owners meetings at the end of March. Danny and Jerry will moan and perhaps threaten a lawsuit. People will get upset. But then calmer heads will prevail and the penalties will be reduced. At least, IMO, that's how this will shake out.

[mbedner3420]

Originally Posted by Lotus

That's one reason why this will likely never go to court. Another is that owners (excepting Al Davis, once) don't bite the hand that feeds them by suing the NFL.

There are owners meetings at the end of March. Danny and Jerry will moan and perhaps threaten a lawsuit. People will get upset. But then calmer heads will prevail and the penalties will be reduced. At least, IMO, that's how this will shake out.

That's entirely useless to use given that free agency starts tomorrow...

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Originally Posted by mbedner3420

That's entirely useless to use given that free agency starts tomorrow...

I was gonna say that.

And I think they're really testing the "owners don't sue the league" line by selectively punishing teams that followed a rule and effectively kneecapping Snyder's chances to build a team right when he finally had his coach, QB, other pieces and big cap room aligned. I don't see him taking that lying down, and will be mad if he does.

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Originally Posted by mbedner3420

That's entirely useless to use given that free agency starts tomorrow...

No it is not useless. We can act in free agency as if there will be little to no penalty on the premise that things will change. Besides, we have two years to meet the penalty in the worst case.

If I'm Bruce Allen I'm approaching FA as if nothing has changed.