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Old 03-13-2012, 07:05 PM   #1
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re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan

Did some quick calculations on the recent signings. Here are the cap hits I've come up with so far given the info out there (000s):

Carriker
2012: $2,750
2013: $4,750
2014: $5,750
2015: $6,750
TOTAL: $20,000

Garcon
2012: $7,300
2013: $7,300
2014: $8,300
2015: $9,300
2016: $10,300
TOTAL: $42,500

Morgan
2012: $2,200
2013: $2,300
2014: $2,500
2015: $2,500
2016: $2,500
TOTAL: $12,000
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Old 03-13-2012, 07:09 PM   #2
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Did some quick calculations on the recent signings. Here are the cap hits I've come up with so far given the info out there (000s):

Carriker
2012: $2,750
2013: $4,750
2014: $5,750
2015: $6,750
TOTAL: $20,000

Garcon
2012: $7,300
2013: $7,300
2014: $8,300
2015: $9,300
2016: $10,300
TOTAL: $42,500

Morgan
2012: $2,200
2013: $2,300
2014: $2,500
2015: $2,500
2016: $2,500
TOTAL: $12,000
What will the cap penalty be in 2014 when Morgan's contract automatically voids?
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what will the cap penalty be in 2014 when morgan's contract automatically voids?
$4.5m
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Crazy canuck, can you give me some insight on to what the "void" references in Morgan's contract?
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Old 03-13-2012, 07:15 PM   #5
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Crazy canuck, can you give me some insight on to what the "void" references in Morgan's contract?
Not sure without seeing the contract but basically just means there are provisions in there that will make a void in 2014 very likely.

It may mean the team and/or player can void after 2013. Or there could be a poison pill roster bonus in 2014 (ie like a $10M roster bonus which will most likely never be paid). But considering the deal is announced as 5 years $12M, doesn't seem to be a poison pill in there.
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Crazy canuck, can you give me some insight on to what the "void" references in Morgan's contract?
It's really a two year deal. We just make it a 5 year deal so the signing bonus can be spread out over 5 years instead of 2. The contract automatically voids after 2 years. We did the same thing with Todd Collins in 2008. Since our recent cap screw job, this needed to be done.
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Did some quick calculations on the recent signings. Here are the cap hits I've come up with so far given the info out there (000s):

Carriker
2012: $2,750
2013: $4,750
2014: $5,750
2015: $6,750
TOTAL: $20,000

Garcon
2012: $7,300
2013: $7,300
2014: $8,300
2015: $9,300
2016: $10,300
TOTAL: $42,500

Morgan
2012: $2,200
2013: $2,300
2014: $2,500
2015: $2,500
2016: $2,500
TOTAL: $12,000
But, but, but, free agency was taken from us! This can't be!
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But, but, but, free agency was taken from us! This can't be!
Lol... I love how this $36M cap charge has been the talk of the town, yet the Skins come out firing on all cylinders.
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Lol... I love how this $36M cap charge has been the talk of the town, yet the Skins come out firing on all cylinders.
There's only one thing left to do: troll the league by storm by having a season in which we make it to least the divisional round, and preferably the championship round.
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Lol... I love how this $36M cap charge has been the talk of the town, yet the Skins come out firing on all cylinders.
It'd be nice to get an idea of what the hell is going on. The NFL has only alluded to it.

Still it'll be fun to see the commish announce the Skins and Cowboy picks come April 26. Redskin and Cowboy fans booing together. Should be quite a sight.
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It'd be nice to get an idea of what the hell is going on. The NFL has only alluded to it.

Still it'll be fun to see the commish announce the Skins and Cowboy picks come April 26. Redskin and Cowboy fans booing together. Should be quite a sight.
Might be the only time you see Skins fans and Cowboys fans come together on anything NFL related.
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Might be the only time you see Skins fans and Cowboys fans come together on anything NFL related.
Another odd consequence might be that the Redskins/Cowboys rivalry will take a back seat to both the Giants/Redskins and Giants/Cowboys. I mean if the Redskins/Cowboys rivalry was ignited over the rights to a song then imagine what this will do.
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Did some quick calculations on the recent signings. Here are the cap hits I've come up with so far given the info out there (000s):

Carriker
2012: $2,750
2013: $4,750
2014: $5,750
2015: $6,750
TOTAL: $20,000

Garcon
2012: $7,300
2013: $7,300
2014: $8,300
2015: $9,300
2016: $10,300
TOTAL: $42,500

Morgan
2012: $2,200
2013: $2,300
2014: $2,500
2015: $2,500
2016: $2,500
TOTAL: $12,000
Garcon's getting 13.5 in year one, 7.25 in year two, and 7.25 in year 3...unconfirmed
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Garcon's getting 13.5 in year one, 7.25 in year two, and 7.25 in year 3...unconfirmed
How is that possible with our cap reduction? Are we just saying '**** it, we'll do what we want' to Goodell?
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Old 03-13-2012, 08:04 PM   #15
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How is that possible with our cap reduction? Are we just saying '**** it, we'll do what we want' to Goodell?
Yes I believe we are, although it's directed more towards owners than it is Goodell. And I personally support this strategy.
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