Gruden 2012 QB Camp Schedule

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

He seemed to take it easy on him. Not sure why. Or perhaps he's just that impressed with him, I dunno.

I haven't seen the whole Luck espisode yet either to compare. Can anyone compare the two?

I watched both last night and the Luck show was a lot better. Gruden grilled him on a bad read he made in the USC game. then he had him on the whiteboard diagramming plays and asking him to draw and explain a bunch of routes for him. The Luck show was great...couldn't get enough.

The RG3 show by comparison was a bunch of fluff...socks and heisman talk. I kept waiting for Gruden to say now lets get down to business and it never happened. No film breakdown, no whiteboard...nothing. 10 minutes on that goofy goal line sneak? Another segment showing him celebrate TD passes?

I love these gruden shows and it just figures that the worst ever episode would be for the QB the Redskins are going to draft...wtf

[SBXVII]

If you watch the full video I added you will see Gruden does break down film with RG3. He even talks about bad goal line formations. Talks about where he's reading on the field. Talks about tempo, speed, knowing what and where everyone is on the field. Running plays when the defense is not set or ready. How RG3 was taught to watch the defense and if they are trying to get off the field he should run a quick play. etc. etc.

Robert Griffin III on Gruden's QB Camp (VIDEO of Full Show) - Hogs Haven

[MTK]

Originally Posted by celts32

I watched both last night and the Luck show was a lot better. Gruden grilled him on a bad read he made in the USC game. then he had him on the whiteboard diagramming plays and asking him to draw and explain a bunch of routes for him. The Luck show was great...couldn't get enough.

The RG3 show by comparison was a bunch of fluff...socks and heisman talk. I kept waiting for Gruden to say now lets get down to business and it never happened. No film breakdown, no whiteboard...nothing. 10 minutes on that goofy goal line sneak? Another segment showing him celebrate TD passes?

I love these gruden shows and it just figures that the worst ever episode would be for the QB the Redskins are going to draft...wtf

I wouldn't call it the worst ever, far from it.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

If you watch the full video I added you will see Gruden does break down film with RG3. He even talks about bad goal line formations. Talks about where he's reading on the field. Talks about tempo, speed, knowing what and where everyone is on the field. Running plays when the defense is not set or ready. How RG3 was taught to watch the defense and if they are trying to get off the field he should run a quick play. etc. etc.

Robert Griffin III on Gruden's QB Camp (VIDEO of Full Show) - Hogs Haven

Are you saying this is a longer version then the half hour one that was on last night?

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I wouldn't call it the worst ever, far from it.

Well I enjoyed the half hour simply because it was our QB but compared to the other Gruden Camp shows it didn't have a lot of meat to it. The Luck show was way better.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

If you watch the full video I added you will see Gruden does break down film with RG3. He even talks about bad goal line formations. Talks about where he's reading on the field. Talks about tempo, speed, knowing what and where everyone is on the field. Running plays when the defense is not set or ready. How RG3 was taught to watch the defense and if they are trying to get off the field he should run a quick play. etc. etc.

Robert Griffin III on Gruden's QB Camp (VIDEO of Full Show) - Hogs Haven

I saw the parts you are talking about. Specifically on running plays when the D is not ready was interesting, and left me hoping that the Skins can run at the tempo he was talking about. The breakdown of the goalline was really not that interesting to me, again 4 times asking him why he was being pushed by the fullback. Like Celts said Gruden went over the whiteboard with Luck, I expected something about that on the show. Maybe they just felt the one video from the combine already showed Griffin at the whiteboard, I don't know... Just came off far less about being a pro qb, and more about how Gruden loves him. Maybe the socks were a bribe to keep Gruden from airing less flattering footage

SOCKGATE

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I wouldn't call it the worst ever, far from it.

I don't know, I saw some black helicopters circling the practice field.

Didn't you?? DIDN'T YOU!!!

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by celts32

Are you saying this is a longer version then the half hour one that was on last night?

Um, no. CultBrennen posted this one....

Gruden Camp: RG3 - ESPN Video - ESPN

Which was the only one I had to watch. I didn't watch it last night so I'm resorting to seeing it after the fact. I'm refering to the fact that the video I posted has more in it then this video does especially at the beginning.

However, if you are commenting that Gruden didn't go out of his way to ridicule RG3 or break down tons of film with him I guess you'd be correct. But the way some people are posting one would get the impression there was no film break down and Gruden simply fluffed the whole show.

What I've noticed of Gruden especially from last yr is he fluffs with the top ranked QB's then he takes the 2nd tier and later and really has them breaking down film. I would assume its because everyone kinda knows what they are getting in Luck and RG3, it's the rest of the pack that might need to establish their knowledge, and sell themselves to teams.

[celts32]

I have probably already made a bigger deal out of it then it's worth and i will let it go now but the Luck show was mostly nuts and bolts football talk and the RG3 show was mostly fluff. I enjoyed it anyway but I expect and usually get more from the Gruden QB Camp shows...

[MTK]

As SS said, it would be interesting to see what was left out.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by celts32

I have probably already made a bigger deal out of it then it's worth and i will let it go now but the Luck show was mostly nuts and bolts football talk and the RG3 show was mostly fluff. I enjoyed it anyway but I expect and usually get more from the Gruden QB Camp shows...

I didn't see any of the shows so you might be correct. But... what was he going to talk about with Luck? I think RG3 has much more about him. Maybe Gruden does like RG3. All the better for the fans who hate Shanahan and Co. knowing that possibly their next HC loves RG3. lol.

Honestly I'm coming around on RG3 but I was rooting for the team to take Weeden. As silly as it sounds. I just didn't think the team would give up the draft picks to move up. RG3 is a bright kid, smart, has good arm strength, and adds the mobility to the package which will obviously help out on the roll outs.

I just hope some fans hopes are not dashed with the Colts taking RG3. lol.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

As SS said, it would be interesting to see what was left out.

or how many retakes they had to do on any specific topic. lol.

[Lotus]

I was a little leery when most of the opening footage was of Griffin running...

Then when I saw the rest, it made me agree with CRed and Celts that it was a letdown.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I am as on board with Griffin as anyone here, but I was disappointed in the Gruden Camp special. I was hoping for some whiteboard time, or some good discussion of pro-qb transitions. Instead, we learned Gruden likes socks, and doesn't like the "sniffer". Certainly, Griffin held his own, but it was all softball lobs in my mind.

Now I missed the Luck special, and haven't watched many overall, so maybe that is the nature of the show, I just expected it to be more qb stuff, less "pull the string"...

Gotta agree with you. I was really disappointed they didn't go to the board or more film of him throwing. For example, he didn't ask about his pick at the goal line and another one he threw in the Alamo Bowl. I wish they would have done more of what he's going to project to at the next level rather than that sniffer garbage and the celebrations. I like the socks thing since that's his signature.

[JoeRedskin]

What football discussion there was seem to focus on RGIII as a runner and how the option game would transpose to the pro level. Very little about passing. I like watching how RGIII handles himself but, Chucky is generally just annoying to me and this show did nothing to change my general perception of him.