Make your Case for non-HOFer

[skinster]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Brian Mitchell.. All purpose yards leader for a long time (maybe still).. Record holder for return touchdowns.. 2 time SB champion..

You could make a case for him (but Jerry rice broke his record one season after he got it, and devin hester has more punt return tds and more kick return tds). I'd say no to him though as being a good return man isn't that relevant. You think if Chris Johnson returned kicks for a living he'd be pretty good at it? I do. But he doesn't because his talents are more useful elsewhere and the its not important enough for him to do as the wear and tear he would get isn't worth the improved results he would produce. I really hate how coaches always say how special teams is important. Really? Then put your star players on special teams. Its really only important not to be terrible at it is what they should say.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinster

You could make a case for him (but Jerry rice broke his record one season after he got it, and devin hester has more punt return tds and more kick return tds). I'd say no to him though as being a good return man isn't that relevant. You think if Chris Johnson returned kicks for a living he'd be pretty good at it? I do. But he doesn't because his talents are more useful elsewhere and the its not important enough for him to do as the wear and tear he would get isn't worth the improved results he would produce. I really hate how coaches always say how special teams is important. Really? Then put your star players on special teams. Its really only important not to be terrible at it is what they should say.

Plenty of "stars" play on special teams. Deion was one of the best return men. Darrell Green retuned punts in big situations. Percy Harvin, Desean Jackson, Dez Bryant, all play teams to name a few.

[skinster]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Plenty of "stars" play on special teams. Deion was one of the best return men. Darrell Green retuned punts in big situations. Percy Harvin, Desean Jackson, Dez Bryant, all play teams to name a few.

None of those guys regularly do it. This last year- Percy had 16, Desean had 17, and Dez had 18. Deion is the closest, but was taken off return duty after his first pro bowl year.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinster

None of those guys regularly do it. This last year- Percy had 16, Desean had 17, and Dez had 18. Deion is the closest, but was taken off return duty after his first pro bowl year.

All you said was if it's so important, put your star players out there, which teams do when the situation warrants it.

Special teams are important. Just ask any team that misses a FG in the playoffs or SB, or gives up a return for a score.

[skinster]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

All you said was if it's so important, put your star players out there, which teams do when the situation warrants it.

Special teams are important. Just ask any team that misses a FG in the playoffs or SB, or gives up a return for a score.

Yeah, in important situations they go out there. If it was really important, every return would have the best players out there.

Just because it can make a difference doesn't mean its important. Unless your team has horrible special teams, the difference from any teams special team's impact on the season to anothers is so minimal its almost negligible. They can swing a close game, but how often that happens is so rare and varied that in the long run it all cancels out.