Redskins 2012 Salary Cap Status

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

So where do we stand now on the cap?

After accounting the rookie pool ($7.484 million), we'll be about $0.5-1.5 million under. There's a lot of vet min deals that aren't counted for in the analysis in this thread yet, as well as the John Beck release (about $1 million freed up in cap). Plus, we don't know if the Redskins designated anyone a post June 1 cut (I suspect they did not, but unless it gets reported, it's private info).

The Redskins can still free up money under the cap by extending Fred Davis before the season, but the more interesting issue is the 2013 cap info, which I might throw something together tomorrow on for interested parties. Unless they want to acquire a veteran salary in a trade though, this is a non-issue. They can pretty much set their roster as they choose from the existing pieces.

In a week, PFT or some other source will likely do a post June 1 cap update using the NFL's numbers. Then we'll be up to date.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The Redskins can still free up money under the cap by extending Fred Davis before the season, but the more interesting issue is the 2013 cap info, which I might throw something together tomorrow on for interested parties.

Count me in as an interested party. 2013 is not looking good.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Count me in as an interested party. 2013 is not looking good.

I'm struggling to understand why this is thought to be the case.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I'm struggling to understand why this is thought to be the case.

with the cap penalty, our salary cap is expected to be around 98MM (as the nfl salary cap is expected to go down next year). We currently have 96MM committed to 2013 according to your figures on the site. Granted, we can get rid of a good portion by cutting:

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

You say goodbye to Hall, Brown, Grossman, maybe Moss and Cooley too.

however, if we get rid of those players, and taking into account our projected needs, we'd still need to sign 2 starting caliber cornerbacks (Hall is the only one currently on our roster), 2 starting caliber safeties, 1-2 starting caliber OTs (i am not optomistic about williams future) and a starting interior lineman, depending on how our players shake out this year. if we dont resign/extend davis between now and 2013 and/or he cant stay away from the weed, you can add starting TE to that list too.

Those are alot of needs to fill with limited cap space. And considering we wont have first round draft picks the next two years, ALL of our starting needs are going to have to be filled through free agency in 2013 and 2014. sure, we could get lucky with a 2nd or 3rd rounder, but you cant count on it.

[CrazyCanuck]

Been running around lately but will try to get some updated cap sheets up in the next week.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

with the cap penalty, our salary cap is expected to be around 98MM (as the nfl salary cap is expected to go down next year). We currently have 96MM committed to 2013 according to your figures on the site. Granted, we can get rid of a good portion by cutting:



however, if we get rid of those players, and taking into account our projected needs, we'd still need to sign 2 starting caliber cornerbacks (Hall is the only one currently on our roster), 2 starting caliber safeties, 1-2 starting caliber OTs (i am not optomistic about williams future) and a starting interior lineman, depending on how our players shake out this year. if we dont resign/extend davis between now and 2013 and/or he cant stay away from the weed, you can add starting TE to that list too.

Those are alot of needs to fill with limited cap space. And considering we wont have first round draft picks the next two years, ALL of our starting needs are going to have to be filled through free agency in 2013 and 2014. sure, we could get lucky with a 2nd or 3rd rounder, but you cant count on it.

CC does an amazing job keeping the cap figures updated on this site, but he will be the first to tell you that while the numbers shown for 2013 are a very accurate reflection of the way the 2013 books look today, they will look much much different come March 2013.

There is so much opportunity to create cap space in those 2013 figures that it's not even worth putting any thought into at this point.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Count me in as an interested party. 2013 is not looking good.

You say goodbye to Hall, Brown, Grossman, maybe Moss and Cooley too.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

You say goodbye to Hall, Brown, Grossman, maybe Moss and Cooley too.

Well its mos def Moss and D Hall's last year with their contracts. Cooley and Brown kinda depends on their healthy, but Browns is kinda friendly if he somehow plays well this year. Rex only has a one year deal.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Well its mos def Moss and D Hall's last year with their contracts. Cooley and Brown kinda depends on their healthy, but Browns is kinda friendly if he somehow plays well this year. Rex only has a one year deal.

It's a pretty good situation for us regardless. Hopefully Moss and Hall play lights out this season for their next contract. Brown could well be replaced in next year's draft too.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by The Goat

It's a pretty good situation for us regardless. Hopefully Moss and Hall play lights out this season for their next contract. Brown could well be replaced in next year's draft too.

Find a day 1 starting right tackle with a (hopefully) late 2nd round pick - at best? how often does that happen?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Find a day 1 starting right tackle with a (hopefully) late 2nd round pick - at best? how often does that happen?

Draft to draft it's a possibility though not a probability. Or maybe it's a guy already on the roster...

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Count me in as an interested party. 2013 is not looking good.

They can move a ton of 2013 salary to 2014 if they need to in order to make a big move or two. Most notably, Fletcher has a 5.5 million salary in 2013, if he's back, but they can move about 3.5 million of that into the future when he won't be on the team (they'll still have to pay it of course).

The big issue is that the 2012 roster has to be strong. We know it's young. If it's young and weak, 2013 is going to be a tear-down rebuilding year under a reorganized front office. If it's a young, strong roster in 2012, then 2013 will largely be about staying the course and trying to maintain gains (Shanahan might try to take the next step, but I think the most prudent use of 2013 is to attempt to maintain any gains made this season). The cap won't prevent the Redskins from keeping their young players. It's just going to prevent going outside the organization to get core pieces that every team could use.

Here's a list of all free agents next year (not including anyone still on the market this year):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...XJGSGNFOWFITGc