Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

12th and saden you're right in lockstep with the Administration. Great news, please keep letting Obama know he's doing the right thing and to stay-the-course on this....but here's what's going on outside the Beltway:

Obama's grand miscalculation with Catholics | Fox News

Important points: "Obama was ahead among Catholics by 9 points in early March, and is now trailing by 5 points. The Pew survey finds that, among Catholic voters with an opinion, 47% would today vote for President Obama, and 52% for former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney. That same margin, were it to hold on Election Day, would mark a swing of 18 million voters away from Obama."

"And among every other category of women, the issue turns out to be a loser, while also carrying a very tangible cost among Catholics: Twenty-nine percent say they are now less likely to vote for the president because of this issue, more than double the 13% who say it makes them more likely to support him. "

Also this from NYT, check questions 73 & 74.
New York Times/CBS Poll - Document - NYTimes.com

Again, this isn't about whether contraception is OK, it's about whether a religious institution should be forced to violate its beliefs.

And no one's buying the "employee going to the insurer direct" compromise/nonsense, the insurer will simply be burying the cost into the Church's premiums.

That's a cop out. I am my own person and I have the ability to distinguish a bad policy from a good one. It's simply a bad policy for an employer to cover every medical necessity under the kitchen sink except for contraception. My decision to support the administration is based solely on the fact that birth control pills have uses besides preventing pregnancies. Further more it's bad governance to allow religious insinuation to discriminate against their employees under the auspice of "freedom" of religion.

To me that's what the questions boil down to is should the employer opt-out entirely or should the employees be allowed to opt-out of the coverage? If you want to prevent tainting of the insurance pool on religious grounds it's perfectly fine to let employees opt-out and save a little more money on their premium. It is not, however, fine to let the employer opt-out entirety and leave their employees that desire such coverage out in the cold. Why? Because it's bad policy.

Further more, if you look at question 76 you will notice that the whole issue isn't about religious freedom but about women's reproductive rights. I'm guessing most of these people aren't going to base their vote on religious freedom or a single issue. Also, what state are these catholic in and do they really matter in light of our electoral system? You can have all the Catholic in the red States for all Obama and et al care.

StiffRom 2012 will still have to bring it!