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Old 06-17-2012, 12:29 PM   #1
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yet another great player that will never get a super bowl ring..
They had enough talent to win in SD. Just couldn't get past NE or IND
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Old 06-17-2012, 12:35 PM   #2
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They had enough talent to win in SD. Just couldn't get past NE or IND
Then obviously they didn't have enough talent and coaching if they couldn't win it all...
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Its awareness (Player trait and coaching trait) and cockiness (player trait and coaching trait). ST knew he was a great player and didn't have great ball security on the play. When you get INT's in football, you're taught to A) hold onto the ball, and B) just go down; you don't have to be superman on a play. Kareem Moore isn't that good of a player, and obviously he ignored his coaches by just going down right then when he intercepted it. Yeah, every once in a while you'll get a play like that that doesn't happen that often. But my favorite quote is Bill Parcells "you are what your record says you are", there were other opportunities in both those game examples you mentioned where the other team could have capitalized or made up for those 'fluke' plays. Its all apart of football.
Well, that's the point. Many things go into the winning of a championship. All that has been asserted is that SD had the talent to do so but was not able to have all the pieces come together at the right time to do so.

Winning the SB relies on more than athletic talent - a point you now seem to concede, but which you originally appearred to deny:

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Then obviously they didn't have enough talent and coaching if they couldn't win it all...
LT's San Diego teams will always be deemed a disappointment b/c, as you say, "they were what their record said they were" - a perennial favorite to go all the way based on their talent that simply never was able to make it to the SB. I would suggest they are on the short list of "Best Teams To Never Win The Superbowl".
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Well, that's the point. Many things go into the winning of a championship. All that has been asserted is that SD had the talent to do so but was not able to have all the pieces come together at the right time to do so.

Winning the SB relies on more than athletic talent - a point you now seem to concede, but which you originally appearred to deny:



LT's San Diego teams will always be deemed a disappointment b/c, as you say, "they were what their record said they were" - a perennial favorite to go all the way based on their talent that simply never was able to make it to the SB. I would suggest they are on the short list of "Best Teams To Never Win The Superbowl".
Agreed. They should be an episode of that "Missing Rings" series.

Too bad for LT.
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Well, that's the point. Many things go into the winning of a championship. All that has been asserted is that SD had the talent to do so but was not able to have all the pieces come together at the right time to do so.

Winning the SB relies on more than athletic talent - a point you now seem to concede, but which you originally appearred to deny:



LT's San Diego teams will always be deemed a disappointment b/c, as you say, "they were what their record said they were" - a perennial favorite to go all the way based on their talent that simply never was able to make it to the SB. I would suggest they are on the short list of "Best Teams To Never Win The Superbowl".

Those San Diego Chargers teams would have never beat the Patriots, the Ravens, or the Steelers in the playoffs. Norv Turner had very good personnel on those Chargers teams but they would always lose in the playoffs to powerhouse teams in the AFC.
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Well, that's the point. Many things go into the winning of a championship. All that has been asserted is that SD had the talent to do so but was not able to have all the pieces come together at the right time to do so.

Winning the SB relies on more than athletic talent - a point you now seem to concede, but which you originally appearred to deny:



LT's San Diego teams will always be deemed a disappointment b/c, as you say, "they were what their record said they were" - a perennial favorite to go all the way based on their talent that simply never was able to make it to the SB. I would suggest they are on the short list of "Best Teams To Never Win The Superbowl".
Agreed. Last thing I'll say though is this; IF SD had beaten NE and played Indy, then they more than likely would have beaten INDY, and that would be a one and only (as of now) Ring taken away from Peyton Manning. Who is a better player in that argument? Its got to be Peyton. Sometimes history is best as it is..(Peyton with a Ring and LT without one)
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I think many of you guys are forgetting something in your tails of the Chargers in the playoffs.

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Not to mention, that same game that LT could hardly run because he was badly hurt from the week prior.



Many things come into play in winning a Super Bowl, and quite frankly, luck plays a HUGE part in it. The Patriots have been one of the luckiest teams I've seen to date, in large part due to injuries and calls that always seem to go their way. That's not taking anything away from their coaching, but you have to have luck on your side.

Also, remember, the team that wins the Super Bowl (and NCAA basketball championship) is usually not the best team in the NFL.
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Then obviously they didn't have enough talent and coaching if they couldn't win it all...
then obviously there was no mention of coaching in the post you quoted...
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then obviously there was no mention of coaching in the post you quoted...
was it really needed to be included? And they didn't have the talent b/c there have been teams with worse coaching and better talent to win super bowls..
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