Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

[mooby]

Love how we lose our first game of the season in which we played bad from start to finish and we're seriously debating whether to replace Mike Shanahan. Really? It's hard to believe guys like Goat are actually gaining ground here. I guess it really is the coaches' fault our receivers dropped an assload of passes today. I know! Next time let's just stop throwing the ball, that way we can avoid dropped passes completely!

The one constant this team has had this year is our bad defense. Obviously we know it needs more talent on it, and I think everybody is in agreement Haslett is done after the season, but do people really believe any changes we make mid-season will make a huge difference? How well did Sherman Lewis work out for us? Any recent mid-season pickups made a huge difference down the stretch for any team in the NFL? Damn people. This is the bed we've made. Now we just have to sleep in it.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by mooby

Love how we lose our first game of the season in which we played bad from start to finish and we're seriously debating whether to replace Mike Shanahan. Really? It's hard to believe guys like Goat are actually gaining ground here. I guess it really is the coaches' fault our receivers dropped an assload of passes today. I know! Next time let's just stop throwing the ball, that way we can avoid dropped passes completely!

The one constant this team has had this year is our bad defense. Obviously we know it needs more talent on it, and I think everybody is in agreement Haslett is done after the season, but do people really believe any changes we make mid-season will make a huge difference? How well did Sherman Lewis work out for us? Any recent mid-season pickups made a huge difference down the stretch for any team in the NFL? Damn people. This is the bed we've made. Now we just have to sleep in it.

Association brings assimilation. If he keeps hammering home the "it's the coaches fault" idea, people will start believing it.

I think sometimes it is the coaches fault (Zero blitz, leaving D. Hall on an island will always linger in my memory) but I think today was on the shoulders of the players, sloppy play, sloppy execution, non-existent defense but coupled with weird desperation plays (RG3 as a WR. Paulsen on a TE screen).

This whole thing was a collective loss. F's all around.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Association brings assimilation. If he keeps hammering home the "it's the coaches fault" idea, people will start believing it.

I think sometimes it is the coaches fault (Zero blitz, leaving D. Hall on an island will always linger in my memory) but I think today was on the shoulders of the players, sloppy play, sloppy execution, non-existent defense but coupled with weird desperation plays (RG3 as a WR. Paulsen on a TE screen).

This whole thing was a collective loss. F's all around.

Absolutely. The coaches didn't drop 10 passes...but the whole team looked flat and the coaches do hold some responsibity for that. This was a total team loss. And I haven't said much about Haslett..in fact I've talked more about our injuries...but good lord this guy is NOT DC material. At least not in the 3-4.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by mooby

Love how we lose our first game of the season in which we played bad from start to finish and we're seriously debating whether to replace Mike Shanahan. Really? It's hard to believe guys like Goat are actually gaining ground here. I guess it really is the coaches' fault our receivers dropped an assload of passes today. I know! Next time let's just stop throwing the ball, that way we can avoid dropped passes completely!

The one constant this team has had this year is our bad defense. Obviously we know it needs more talent on it, and I think everybody is in agreement Haslett is done after the season, but do people really believe any changes we make mid-season will make a huge difference? How well did Sherman Lewis work out for us? Any recent mid-season pickups made a huge difference down the stretch for any team in the NFL? Damn people. This is the bed we've made. Now we just have to sleep in it.

You could look at it like we should have been 7-0 heading into a week where we didn't show up, but our 3-5 record this year is completely in line with past years. It is what it is at this point.

The only reason for the thread today instead of last week is we're at the middle of the season now. The question would have been valid at any point. Which is why I said in the OP that I expect things to swing significantly in Shannys favor the further we get from today's game. I think that's natural.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by mooby

Love how we lose our first game of the season in which we played bad from start to finish and we're seriously debating whether to replace Mike Shanahan. Really? It's hard to believe guys like Goat are actually gaining ground here. I guess it really is the coaches' fault our receivers dropped an assload of passes today. I know! Next time let's just stop throwing the ball, that way we can avoid dropped passes completely!

The one constant this team has had this year is our bad defense. Obviously we know it needs more talent on it, and I think everybody is in agreement Haslett is done after the season, but do people really believe any changes we make mid-season will make a huge difference? How well did Sherman Lewis work out for us? Any recent mid-season pickups made a huge difference down the stretch for any team in the NFL? Damn people. This is the bed we've made. Now we just have to sleep in it.

If our WRs had caught every ball today...we still would have lost, period. Would the score have been a bit closer? Sure, so what?

Any team out-coached as badly as we were today can't win. And that's the stinker of it. If our coaching staff was made up of Tomlin, Lebeau and Haley, and the Steelers were coached by the Shanahans and Haslett, we would have destroyed Pittsburgh today.

Everyone in the predictions thread who said Pittsburgh is not the team they once were...it's still the truth. They didn't even have their best player on defense today, and for the most part their WRs weren't breaking big ones. Their WRs dropped a fair number of passes today as well. They moved the chains on us because our scheme is shit. We can't/won't create pressure running a 3-4 and our secondary was obviously coached to play soft as jello.

Offensively, Kyle was channeling Jim Zorn today. In terms of play-calling/play-design it was at least as bad as anything we saw in the Zorn era. The Morgan to RG3 pass and designed QB run near the goal line are just inexcusable. Really?! You thought the Steelers wouldn't be keying on RG3 all game?

It's why I say this isn't a serious football team right now. If your coaching is so poor as to make a win metaphysically impossible, you're not a serious team.