Steelers 27 Skins 12 post game thread

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by los panda

if he's wide open, the safety isn't sitting back there...

i just said that if shanny didn't make it clear to morgan (not to throw the ball unless griff was wide open), then he is accountable for that mistake.

Well when we say wide open do we mean running free in back of the entire teams secondary ( flashback of Cruz - make it stop) because he could be open for the catch with a safety lining up a huge hit - no? Catch - turn - two steps - BANG. Still open for the reception.

Edit: think what Goat is getting at is asking a wr and a qb to change places creates potential for disaster. Ball hangs up. RG-3 being RG-3 and wanting to make the play not worrying about the safety lurking. Even if it is a perfect throw he can still get hammered by the safety lining up a head shot instead of playing the ball ala Laron Landry. Totally agree with Goat and probably so does MS cus i bet we never see it again. Ever.
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[53Fan]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Well when we say wide open do we mean running free in back of the entire teams secondary ( flashback of Cruz - make it stop) because he could be open for the catch with a safety lining up a huge hit - no? Catch - turn - two steps - BANG. Still open for the reception.


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In Mikes defense he ran the same play with Elway 10-15 times. I'm fairly certain he meant very open. As in he would have time to make the reception.
.pick up some yards and head out of bounds if need be. Still with all the hits Grifs been getting and all the talk about it.....well it didn't work and I got pissed off too that he was put in that position.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

In Mikes defense he ran the same play with Elway 10-15 times. I'm fairly certain he meant very open. As in he would have time to make the reception.
.pick up some yards and head out of bounds if need be. Still with all the hits Grifs been getting and all the talk about it.....well it didn't work and I got pissed off too that he was put in that position.

Im kind of like you. It wasnt just Elway who ran it, Brady and P. Manning have as well, multiple times, and those guys are as slow as dirt.

Having said that, it was still a stupid call. You cant ask a WR running to the opposite side of the field to read the defense before throwing. If you run the play, the WR throws it regardless, its a feast or famine play. If they want RG3 to have the ball more, then it needs to be something like a play action bootleg with a run/pass option. Im nervous about him running so much, but being a receiver is not going to work. As a runner, he can to some degree protect himself. Kind of difficult to protect yourself when your eyes are looking back at a wounded duck of a pass.

Most safeties are taking that hit regardless of whether it will be a clean shot or not. If im a defender, and the hit on an opposing QB that is playing as well as RG3 presents itself even if I cant make it a clean hit, im taking the hit and the 15 yard penalty. Im sure most, if not all, NFL defensive players will gladly take it as well.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

Im kind of like you. It wasnt just Elway who ran it, Brady and P. Manning have as well, multiple times, and those guys are as slow as dirt.

Having said that, it was still a stupid call. You cant ask a WR running to the opposite side of the field to read the defense before throwing. If you run the play, the WR throws it regardless, its a feast or famine play. If they want RG3 to have the ball more, then it needs to be something like a play action bootleg with a run/pass option. Im nervous about him running so much, but being a receiver is not going to work. As a runner, he can to some degree protect himself. Kind of difficult to protect yourself when your eyes are looking back at a wounded duck of a pass.

Most safeties are taking that hit regardless of whether it will be a clean shot or not. If im a defender, and the hit on an opposing QB that is playing as well as RG3 presents itself even if I cant make it a clean hit, im taking the hit and the 15 yard penalty. Im sure most, if not all, NFL defensive players will gladly take it as well.

If I'm on the defense and have a chance to take Griffin out of the game? You better know I'm gonna do it! Couldn't agree more.