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[53Fan]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

JC played just like he did here so many times. It wasnt just that the 9ers had a great pass rush, but it was his inability to feel the pocket and get rid of the ball in a timely fashion that was the reason why he was beat up last night.

As far as the 9ers it looked as though they changed the offense a little with CK at the helm and were able to incorporate some of the read option stuff that teams have been experimenting with as of late. It took the Bears by surprise and led to the beat down that was handed to them. The defense was off balance all night and looked unprepared.

Greg Roman the 49er's OC is great at adjusting his offense to his QB.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Greg Roman the 49er's OC is great at adjusting his offense to his QB.

At the risk of "going there" ... isn't that exactly what MS and KS have done with RGIII?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

At the risk of "going there" ... isn't that exactly what MS and KS have done with RGIII?

Bootlicker.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

At the risk of "going there" ... isn't that exactly what MS and KS have done with RGIII?

I think 53 meant that with Smith they are more of a dink dunk offense and more of wide open offense with Kaep.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I think 53 meant that with Smith they are more of a dink dunk offense and more of wide open offense with Kaep.

I took it to be that a coach, who has been discussed as a possible replacement for MS, was being praised for adapting his offensive system to the particular talents of the QB at hand. An ability similarly exhibited by our current coaching staff and for which many a poster has failed to give them credit.

At this point, other than a couple of folks, I don't know or care who likes/tolerates/hates MS. Just seems inconsistent to praise one coach for adapting and not do the same for others.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I took it to be that a coach, who has been discussed as a possible replacement for MS, was being praised for adapting his offensive system to the particular talents of the QB at hand. An ability similarly exhibited by our current coaching staff and for which many a poster has failed to give them credit.

At this point, other than a couple of folks, I don't know or care who likes/tolerates/hates MS. Just seems inconsistent to praise one coach for adapting and not do the same for others.

Yup. And I agree that Kyle deserves praise for his adaptivity this year. Our unique "pistol" often works out like an adapted old single wing, with true "quarter-"backs, "half-"backs, and "full-"backs. This allows the team to play to Griff's strengths, develop him slowly, but still be successful offensively. Kyle has done things that no one else is doing and deserves credit for this.

Now if we can just work on Kyle's short-yardage play calling...

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Lotus

... Kyle has done things that no one else is doing and deserves credit for this.

Now if we can just work on Kyle's short-yardage play calling...

Agreed. (I would add stopping silly penalties to that).

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

At the risk of "going there" ... isn't that exactly what MS and KS have done with RGIII?

It was meant entirely as a compliment to Roman not a jab at anyone else. The more I read about him the more impressed I am. He seems to bring out the best in QB's and knows how to attack defenses very well.
He helped bring out the best in David Carr. Went from Stanford and Andrew Luck to the 49'ers and Alex Smith and as OC substancially improved their offense fairly quickly with a QB whose talent was being questioned and in the first year their W/L record improved. Pretty impressive if you ask me and since the poster before me expressed something along the lines of how well they were doing after halftime and a change in QB's, not against just any defense but the Bears defense, I expressed my opinion on Greg Roman. He seems to be successful wherever he goes be it college or pros.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

It was meant entirely as a compliment to Roman not a jab at anyone else. The more I read about him the more impressed I am. He seems to bring out the best in QB's and knows how to attack defenses very well.
He helped bring out the best in David Carr. Went from Stanford and Andrew Luck to the 49'ers and Alex Smith and as OC substancially improved their offense fairly quickly with a QB whose talent was being questioned and in the first year their W/L record improved. Pretty impressive if you ask me and since the poster before me expressed something along the lines of how well they were doing after halftime and a change in QB's, not against just any defense but the Bears defense, I expressed my opinion on Greg Roman. He seems to be successful wherever he goes be it college or pros.

But his offense is dink and dunk did you see the running formations and different players he used? He's pretty creative and unpredictable.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

But his offense is dink and dunk did you see the running formations and different players he used? He's pretty creative and unpredictable.

Yes he is! It was actually a statement made by Chico in another thread.... then reading the one I quoted that led me to point Roman out. Chico said it was great gameplanning and great coaching that got SF playing like that against Chicago's defense. Keapernic or whatever his name is definitely benefited by Roman being on the staff.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Yes he is! It was actually a statement made by Chico in another thread then reading the one I quoted that led me to point Roman out. Chico said it was great gameplanning and great coaching that got SF playing like that against Chicago's defense. Keapernic or whatever his name is definitely benefited by Roman being on the staff.

Dude I saw what he did with Luck at Stanford. If the skins were to make a coaching change he would be my candidate, he has RGIII and Morris, 2 key pieces in place. Let's see how Kaep progresses if he remains the starter.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Dude I saw what he did with Luck at Stanford. If the skins were to make a coaching change he would be my candidate, he has RGIII and Morris, 2 key pieces in place. Let's see how Kaep progresses if he remains the starter.

I think you can tell Roman works with his QBs real close. Kaep was eerily poised considering the stage and looked confident in his decisions. Some people say you can't coach/teach that stuff, but doesn't seem like the same guy ends up working with a couple/few great QBs?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

It was meant entirely as a compliment to Roman not a jab at anyone else. The more I read about him the more impressed I am. He seems to bring out the best in QB's and knows how to attack defenses very well.
He helped bring out the best in David Carr. Went from Stanford and Andrew Luck to the 49'ers and Alex Smith and as OC substancially improved their offense fairly quickly with a QB whose talent was being questioned and in the first year their W/L record improved. Pretty impressive if you ask me and since the poster before me expressed something along the lines of how well they were doing after halftime and a change in QB's, not against just any defense but the Bears defense, I expressed my opinion on Greg Roman. He seems to be successful wherever he goes be it college or pros.

Indeed. I read all the articles linked to TWP and even being skeptical about analysts/sports-writers the variety of evidence given is pretty overwhelming. He's got a proven track record and sounds like everybody thinks he is or can be a great leader. That's partly why it seems just plain crazy there's interest in K. Shanahan as an HC...what owner/GM/VP is gonna risk their team/job on someone far less accomplished than what's available on the market?

But it's not just more potential for offense with Roman as HC, it means more potential with the defense too because Mike would be removed from the equation. It's pretty darn exciting actually...