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Old 08-23-2005, 07:26 PM   #1
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YEah, I thought he kicked ass at Tech too, as I am a Hokie myself. However, Gardner has proven his worth in this league. I'll tell ya another college player that has surprisingly done very little, that's Quincy Wilson from WVU. That guy literally RAN OVER Va Tech and Miami, he was a stud. He landed on the Falcons practice squad and now he's 3rd string on the Bengals.
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Old 08-23-2005, 07:45 PM   #2
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Re: Anyone else pissed that Cleveland got a 5th rounder for Andre Davis?

Imagine you are an NFL GM. You need to pick up a WR for your team who has some game experience.

Available at the moment are Andre Davis and Rod Gardner. Which one do you sign?

I'd take Davis in a heartbeat and maybe that's why he drew a higher price than Gardner. He's a better player than Gardner - - even though neither one is spectacular.
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Old 08-23-2005, 08:42 PM   #3
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Re: Anyone else pissed that Cleveland got a 5th rounder for Andre Davis?

The biggest mistake we've made in the front office is trading coles it forced our hands by taking the cap hit. We basically gave Coles to the Jets for his yearly contract. By the way did anyone see him and Pennington tear it up against the Vikes...he looked great.
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The biggest mistake we've made in the front office is trading coles it forced our hands by taking the cap hit. We basically gave Coles to the Jets for his yearly contract. By the way did anyone see him and Pennington tear it up against the Vikes...he looked great.
Coles isn't going to do anything spectacular for the Jets. He will not have a 1000 yds. in receiving and definintlely will not lead in TDs. Most Jets fans feel like we got the best end of the deal with Santana Moss. Sure Moss has had hamstring problems but no way near the kind of problem Coles has with the toe. I'll take Moss anytime with his speed on the deep ball over Coles.
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Coles isn't going to do anything spectacular for the Jets. He will not have a 1000 yds. in receiving and definintlely will not lead in TDs. Most Jets fans feel like we got the best end of the deal with Santana Moss. Sure Moss has had hamstring problems but no way near the kind of problem Coles has with the toe. I'll take Moss anytime with his speed on the deep ball over Coles.
The problem isn't Coles vs Moss talent its how much of a cap hit we took.
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The problem isn't Coles vs Moss talent its how much of a cap hit we took.
I just responded to your assessment of Coles's performance. I remember how good he looked on our first game of the season against the Jets 2 seasons ago. He went down hill from there. I'd rather take a cap hit than have a disgruntled player poluting the lockeroom with dissatisfaction. Look at the Eagles.
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I just responded to your assessment of Coles's performance. I remember how good he looked on our first game of the season against the Jets 2 seasons ago. He went down hill from there. I'd rather take a cap hit than have a disgruntled player poluting the lockeroom with dissatisfaction. Look at the Eagles.
If you think he was a locker room cancer it might be worth it, but Gibbs seemed to get through to everyone. I'm just suprised he couldn't get Coles on his side.
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Coles isn't going to do anything spectacular for the Jets. He will not have a 1000 yds. in receiving and definintlely will not lead in TDs. Most Jets fans feel like we got the best end of the deal with Santana Moss. Sure Moss has had hamstring problems but no way near the kind of problem Coles has with the toe. I'll take Moss anytime with his speed on the deep ball over Coles.
You have to calculate is Santana Moss 9 million dollars against the salary cap better than Coles. I'm willing to bet Coles has a better year than Moss, however more likely b/c of QB then anything else. Read this article
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18484-2005Mar8.html
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You have to calculate is Santana Moss 9 million dollars against the salary cap better than Coles. I'm willing to bet Coles has a better year than Moss, however more likely b/c of QB then anything else. Read this article
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18484-2005Mar8.html
To be honest with you. Chad Pennington's career is almost over. His rotator cuff injury is being played down until the Jets can get an experienced QB to replace him. He underwent major surgery this summer and unfortunately hasn't had the time to heal completely. But the Jets will make the playoffs.
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Re: Anyone else pissed that Cleveland got a 5th rounder for Andre Davis?

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Coles isn't going to do anything spectacular for the Jets. He will not have a 1000 yds. in receiving and definintlely will not lead in TDs. Most Jets fans feel like we got the best end of the deal with Santana Moss. Sure Moss has had hamstring problems but no way near the kind of problem Coles has with the toe. I'll take Moss anytime with his speed on the deep ball over Coles.
Not meaning to pick on you SUNRA , but I respectfully disagree with your assessment of Coles. I guarantee that he will put up over 1,000 yards this season and will outperform Moss (in terms of stats at least).

I don't necessarily disagree with your contention that we are better off with Moss than Coles. But that is simply because I'd rather have an inferior player who's happy to be here than Coles (who would be unhappy).
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