RGIII undergoing total reconstructive surgery: out 6-8 months

[SmootSmack]

Surgery should be wrapping up by now, I believe

And when I say "I think"...there's more to it

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Surgery should be wrapping up by now, I believe

And when I say "I think"...there's more to it

We love you SS, but we hate your teases. Let us know what you're talking about asap, please...

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SCRedskinsFan

We love you SS, but we hate your teases. Let us know what you're talking about asap, please...

Read between the lines.. It's more of an 8-10 month rehab but 6-8 months sounds much better and if he returns by opening day then it looks like they didn't truly risk his future.

[mlmpetert]

And isnt it a little ridiculous to give an extremely opportunistic view before the surgery was even started? i can see if they were like things went extremely well..... but when this 6-8 months stuff was coming out last night

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

And isnt it a little ridiculous to give an extremely opportunistic view before the surgery was even started? i can see if they were like things went extremely well..... but when this 6-8 months stuff was coming out last night

That was my first reaction as well... i think the 6-8 month is a "best case scenario" based on normal recovery times. AP's recovery has shown that anything is possible... Phillip Daniels tweeted that he had the same surgery when he was 35 and was squatting 600lbs 7 months later.

I get that people heal at different rates, and that surgical techniques have advanced, but i have to wonder if some of these remarkable recovery times are partially due to players taking HGH or some other drugs to speed up recovery. And if they are - i dont have a problem with it. I think the NFL should allow those drugs (assuming they are legal in the US) on a case by case basis to players who are recovering from certain injuries - with the league and doctor approval. How can getting the NFLs star players back on the field sooner be a bad thing for the league?

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Surgery should be wrapping up by now, I believe

And when I say "I think"...there's more to it

Which is…...

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Surgery should be wrapping up by now, I believe

And when I say "I think"...there's more to it

You in the operating room, posting from your cell?

[SFREDSKIN]

This could have been prevented if someone had the balls to say NO to RGIII.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

This could have been prevented if someone had the balls to say NO to RGIII.

I agree, but i dont think its a matter of "balls." Shanahan sat RGIII when RGIII wanted to play/beleived he could play.

THe problem i have is that Shanahan allowed RGIII to come back and play - as long as he wore the brace. I can see allowing that for an offensive lineman, who is going to be fairly immobile during a game - but given that RGIIIs position requires him to scramble and make alot of quick cuts, the brace becomes less effective. The brace slipped out of place, and thats what resulted in RGIIIs injury. Shanahan should have forseen the possibility/liklihood of that happening and not allowed RGIII to come back until he was truly 100%.

After this surgery, i dont want to see RGIII on the field again until he is 100%. And by 100%, i dont mean the 100% RGIII said he was in recent weeks - that was BS. Until Shanahan can see RGIII move around just like he did during the Saints game - without any sort of brace - he doesnt need to step on the field. I dont care if he misses the entire season - he needs to FULLY heal before he tries to play football.

[ashvirtually]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I agree, but i dont think its a matter of "balls." Shanahan sat RGIII when RGIII wanted to play/beleived he could play.

THe problem i have is that Shanahan allowed RGIII to come back and play - as long as he wore the brace. I can see allowing that for an offensive lineman, who is going to be fairly immobile during a game - but given that RGIIIs position requires him to scramble and make alot of quick cuts, the brace becomes less effective. The brace slipped out of place, and thats what resulted in RGIIIs injury. Shanahan should have forseen the possibility/liklihood of that happening and not allowed RGIII to come back until he was truly 100%.

After this surgery, i dont want to see RGIII on the field again until he is 100%. And by 100%, i dont mean the 100% RGIII said he was in recent weeks - that was BS. Until Shanahan can see RGIII move around just like he did during the Saints game - without any sort of brace - he doesnt need to step on the field. I dont care if he misses the entire season - he needs to FULLY heal before he tries to play football.

This. Especially the bold.

I just want to add one small thing:

I have said this before and I will continue to reiterate it ... what happened on FedEx against the Ravens when Robert first injured his knee was a remarkable thing. He affected the play on the field that he was not playing on, as well giving energy to the crowd that was behind the home team.

That is very special. I said then he would lead us to extraordinary heights.

Cap'n Kirk has 48 whopping pass attempts, and I'm not going to turn him into Roger Staubach. Yes, he faced down 2-20 and gave us the game-tying TD and two-point conversion that led to the game-winning FG when the Ravens were forced to punt in OT.

But it was Robert who pushed the team down the field and gave us two crucial passes to put us in the position to tie and win; it was Robert whom the 'Skins were inspired by and rallied behind to pull out that win. We would have lost last year, or the year before that, or, hell, any year since Sean Taylor was murdered and taken away from us.

Robert brought them all together and that allowed Cap'n Kirk to finish off the Ravens and beam up the Browns the next week.

I have faith in Cousins, but I don't think that either Robert's fearlessness and stubbornness, nor Shanahan's stubbornness and belief in him, and the situation they both find themselves and have put this organization into because of the mistakes that courage and bravery and belief caused should erase any of that. I believe the team will rally behing Capn' Kirk and he will hold the fort down and may even achieve great success.

But Robert is the binding component in all of it. He's the one who's fire and passion changed our organization's culture. You think those guys are gonna go out there and think that they are done if the score is down by a TD in the last four minutes of a game ever again? You think they are gonna give up on games going forward that they would have given up on before this past season?

'Cause I don't.

And Robert has a lot - a LOT - to do with that.

He just needs to get healthy now, and if that means he sits out a whole season, so be it. If he's brought onto himself a possible QB controversy if Cap'n Kirk does well next season, he will have to realize that is also another consequence of his fearlessness and stubbornness. And that's football. But I think just having him leading from the sidelines will keep us heading up.

Anyway, you guys take care. Think I'm going to stay away from here for awhile, probably until F/A and the draft. Too much reading of people's personal gripes and far-out tinfoilhattery and watching them force that to fit what's happened.

It is what it is. It's football. But seeing that happening is too disappointing for words.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I agree, but i dont think its a matter of "balls." Shanahan sat RGIII when RGIII wanted to play/beleived he could play.

THe problem i have is that Shanahan allowed RGIII to come back and play - as long as he wore the brace. I can see allowing that for an offensive lineman, who is going to be fairly immobile during a game - but given that RGIIIs position requires him to scramble and make alot of quick cuts, the brace becomes less effective. The brace slipped out of place, and thats what resulted in RGIIIs injury. Shanahan should have forseen the possibility/liklihood of that happening and not allowed RGIII to come back until he was truly 100%.

After this surgery, i dont want to see RGIII on the field again until he is 100%. And by 100%, i dont mean the 100% RGIII said he was in recent weeks - that was BS. Until Shanahan can see RGIII move around just like he did during the Saints game - without any sort of brace - he doesnt need to step on the field. I dont care if he misses the entire season - he needs to FULLY heal before he tries to play football.

Eh?

His knee was already compromised, didn't take much to injure it further. A brace does little to prevent injury... it's just there to provide support to a weak joint.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Eh?

His knee was already compromised, didn't take much to injure it further. A brace does little to prevent injury... it's just there to provide support to a weak joint.

True but I doubt Shanny made this decision alone. I'm sure the medical staff was consulted and told Shanny the risks/rewards of wearing the knee brace.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Eh?

His knee was already compromised, didn't take much to injure it further. A brace does little to prevent injury... it's just there to provide support to a weak joint.

Exactly, and if it slides out of place, it cant provide the support. If it cant provide support, and you put your weight on it, twist it, etc., youre more likely to injure it. When Griffin left the game the first time (didnt miss any plays) and went into that horribly tacky looking plywood shack, it was to put his brace back on properly because it had slipped out of place. When he came back in, he was limping 10 times worse than he was before. Seems to me the brace falling out of place, allowed his knee to move in ways it wasnt healthy enough for, resulting in his injury, but thats just the assumption i made.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Exactly, and if it slides out of place, it cant provide the support. If it cant provide support, and you put your weight on it, twist it, etc., youre more likely to injure it. When Griffin left the game the first time (didnt miss any plays) and went into that horribly tacky looking plywood shack, it was to put his brace back on properly because it had slipped out of place. When he came back in, he was limping 10 times worse than he was before. Seems to me the brace falling out of place, allowed his knee to move in ways it wasnt healthy enough for, resulting in his injury, but thats just the assumption i made.

Why do you think it slid out of place?

I would bet that thing was on tighter than a drum, and probably heavily taped up underneath as well.

[scowan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Surgery should be wrapping up by now, I believe

And when I say "I think"...there's more to it

Smoot, I was just thinking that Dr. Andrews is becoming famous enough to have a press conference when he gets finished with Robert! LOL