Broncos Running Game

[manicd]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

Forget Champ. He was a good player, but he didn't want to be here and so I say thanks and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. I KNOW he didn't want to be here so I'm not going to cry over his departure.

That said, I think that Portis IS a monster. I also think that the Broncos offensive line is not as good as it was several years ago. I also think that you could say that a number of backs would not do nearly as well without their olines (i.e. Jamal Lewis). But I'll tell you what, Portis is special and anyone who doesn't think so ought to get their eyes checked.

I could be full of it, but that's my two cents.

Portis a monster? Isn't he small in comparison to the backs Gibbs had in the day? I just watched the video of the link JCrisp put up there in regard to the Bailey trade. He mentioned having a "BIG" back like Riggins, who was a bruiser in his day. Like all positions, guys are getting bigger and bigger. I know Gibbs is a smart guy, but liking him to a big back of the 80's, to somebody like Portis know, doesn't seem like a great analogy. Or did he mean "big" ,as a big game breaker? Thoughts on that.

[Gmanc711]

I do hear alot about Denvers O-Line, but we have a pretty good Oline too. Look what happened last year when we were actually allowed to run the ball, we had some damn good games. I think Portis will do just fine here.

[beg8878]

Originally Posted by manicd

Portis a monster? Isn't he small in comparison to the backs Gibbs had in the day?

Somebody needs to pull up the height and weight of Byner...I am just to lazy and drunk to rigth now, but I bet you it isn't that far off from one another and Byner seemed to do just fine.

People need to stop worrying about Portis. I don't care if Denver's system had something to do with it. the kid STILL has a ton of potential....he is only 22 years old and will get even better. For God's sakes what back would you rather have back there than him? Be thrilled, be excited, if this goes through, it was a steal.....a stud 22 year old back that touches the ball 30 times a game or a shut down corner (who didn't even want to be here) involved in maybe half that number.

[manicd]

Originally Posted by beg8878

Somebody needs to pull up the height and weight of Byner...I am just to lazy and drunk to rigth now, but I bet you it isn't that far off from one another and Byner seemed to do just fine.

People need to stop worrying about Portis. I don't care if Denver's system had something to do with it. the kid STILL has a ton of potential....he is only 22 years old and will get even better. For God's sakes what back would you rather have back there than him? Be thrilled, be excited, if this goes through, it was a steal.....a stud 22 year old back that touches the ball 30 times a game or a shut down corner (who didn't even want to be here) involved in maybe half that number.

That is what I was talking about. I am problably youger than some here, but I saw Rggings as a big MFer for that time. I was just wondering what Gibbs philospy is on this. Portis is great. But can he take the beating?

[Daseal]

Ever think that maybe, just maybe Gibbs will change his system a little bit for a smaller back? He can take a beating, he carries the load at Denver, but I don't recommend running him right up the middle every down. He can hit the outside and roll.

I guarantee you Portis needs a much smaller hole and can do a lot more once he's through it than Riggins.

[Gmanc711]

I agree, and if we have to run up the middle that bad, we should still have a couple guys named Betts and Cartwright that can jam it up the middle for a play or too. Thats not saying Portis can't. I'm just saying, I agree with Daseal that Gibbs will format his system and then when we need to do somthing else, we will still have options

[Scott]

Gibbs is known for his adjustments, if he picks up a guy like Portis he is doing it with a gameplan in mind...

[Beemnseven]

Here are a few of Gibbs' RBs and their respective sizes. This should cool the myth that Gibbs only used BIG BACKS:

Earnest Byner, 5'11" -- 220 lbs
Ricky Ervins, 5'7" -- 200 lbs
Brian Mitchell 5'10" -- 215 lbs
Kelvin Bryant 6'2" -- 210 lbs (taller than average, but not meaty)
Joe Washington -- small, don't have actual records for him, but he was small.

Of course there were guys like Riggins, Rogers, and Riggs. But it's safe to say Gibbs knew the value of having multiple type RBs on his roster.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Ever think that maybe, just maybe Gibbs will change his system a little bit for a smaller back? He can take a beating, he carries the load at Denver, but I don't recommend running him right up the middle every down. He can hit the outside and roll.

I guarantee you Portis needs a much smaller hole and can do a lot more once he's through it than Riggins.

I have been thinking that very thing for a while, as far as adjusting his system, especially on defense, I think he wanted someone more aggresive than pettibone, I was also wondering if he plan's to utilize his back's a little differently than he has in the past? It sounds like portis's arrival is going to happen, and gibb's I believe is looking for a more high powered offense than he used to run, I think he was alway's enamoured by the QB's who could get out of the pocket and run and he really want's to use that with brunnell with a lot of planned roll out's and so forth, it looks like he really want's to pressure the defense with speed.

[Daseal]

Next offseason move. Vick to Washington!