Schefter: "Skins NOT shopping Big Al"

[Darrell_Green_28]

Im just curious, i just read that Haynesworth has been placed on the tradeblock per an article on yahoo. So are we looking to move him or not?

Source: Mardy Gilyard to visit the Redskins on Monday - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

[Longtimefan]

Joe Gibbs was probably the most respected HC the Redskins have ever had. Not only that, a coach that has actually accomplished something with the organization. He had a situation with Sean Taylor one off-season very reminiscent to what we're seeing now with Haynesworth, Sean refused to even return Gibbs's calls but he didn't hold a grudge against him because he wasn't here, he continued to show him the utmost respect, and it was never more evident than in his passing.

Shanahan so far has done absolutely nothing for the Redskins, while I respect what he has accomplished elsewhere we're riding a hope that his previous success will translate to Washington. If the best HC we've ever had has the know-how to deal with sometimes uncooperative players without creating a frenzy, Shanahan should be able to do the same. I can understand what he's trying to accomplish but there may be a better way of going about it.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Joe Gibbs was probably the most respected HC the Redskins have ever had. Not only that, a coach that has actually accomplished something with the organization. He had a situation with Sean Taylor one off-season very reminiscent to what we're seeing now with Haynesworth, Sean refused to even return Gibbs's calls but he didn't hold a grudge against him because he wasn't here, he continued to show him the utmost respect, and it was never more evident than in his passing.

Shanahan so far has done absolutely nothing for the Redskins, while I respect what he has accomplished elsewhere we're riding a hope that his previous success will translate to Washington. If the best HC we've ever had has the know-how to deal with sometimes uncooperative players without creating a frenzy, Shanahan should be able to do the same. I can understand what he's trying to accomplish but there may be a better way of going about it.

One thing for sure, Shanahan is no Gibbs and never will, actually nobody will ever be like Gibbs.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Joe Gibbs was probably the most respected HC the Redskins have ever had. Not only that, a coach that has actually accomplished something with the organization. He had a situation with Sean Taylor one off-season very reminiscent to what we're seeing now with Haynesworth, Sean refused to even return Gibbs's calls but he didn't hold a grudge against him because he wasn't here, he continued to show him the utmost respect, and it was never more evident than in his passing.

Shanahan so far has done absolutely nothing for the Redskins, while I respect what he has accomplished elsewhere we're riding a hope that his previous success will translate to Washington. If the best HC we've ever had has the know-how to deal with sometimes uncooperative players without creating a frenzy, Shanahan should be able to do the same. I can understand what he's trying to accomplish but there may be a better way of going about it.

Joe Gibbs 2.0 wasn't anything like the first go around.

Shanahan was brought in to correct the mistakes of the last two or three administrations. If the players feel like they make the rules, then the team will be no different and the results will be the same.

I don't think Shanahan and Allen have any intention of allowing the previous mistakes to be repeated.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Joe Gibbs 2.0 wasn't anything like the first go around.

Shanahan was brought in to correct the mistakes of the last two or three administrations. If the players feel like they make the rules, then the team will be no different and the results will be the same.

I don't think Shanahan and Allen have any intention of allowing the previous mistakes to be repeated.

In Gibbs 2.0 he didn't have the energy and drive of the Gibbs 1.0, still he made the franchise respectable again and took the team to 2 playoffs. Let's see what Shanahan can do before we crown him as the savior.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

In Gibbs 2.0 he didn't have the energy and drive of the Gibbs 1.0, still he made the franchise respectable again and took the team to 2 playoffs. Let's see what Shanahan can do before we crown him as the savior.

No one is badmouthing St. Joe and yes he brought some respectability. I would argue that Joe was still a great motivator it is just that too many awful personnel moves led to his return falling way short of the unrealistic expectations.

I am not calling Shanahan a savior. I would rather refer to him as the Drillsergeant.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Joe Gibbs 2.0 wasn't anything like the first go around.

Shanahan was brought in to correct the mistakes of the last two or three administrations. If the players feel like they make the rules, then the team will be no different and the results will be the same.

I don't think Shanahan and Allen have any intention of allowing the previous mistakes to be repeated.

Except for the fact there's no one in violation of the rule. In this particular case, the player is completely within his rights to do what he's doing. Granted the coach might not like it, but his response cannot be a childish one if he intends to lead. Respect is a double edge sword, you have to give it to get it.

Shanahan and Allen may be concerned about the players repeating the mistakes of the past, but I'm more concerned about them repeating past mistakes.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Except for the fact there's no one in violation of the rule. In this particular case, the player is completely within his rights to do what he's doing. Granted the coach might not like it, but his response cannot be a childish one if he intends to lead. Respect is a double edge sword, you have to give it to get it.

Shanahan and Allen may be concerned about the players repeating the mistakes of the past, but I'm more concerned about them repeating past mistakes.

1st of all, I don't like Albert Haynesworth. That's my preface. This is a great post, LTF. 100% agree. I love that Shanny/Allen want to lay down the law. But I don't want them to do it like a 8 year old throwing a temper tantrum and stomping his feet with his fingers in his ears.

[tootergray34]

Mardy Gilyard? I doubt we go after a WR...but right now i'm totally clueless as to what we are going to do. I honestly want the HOTEL here ASAP to anchor our line...well maybe not anchor...but be better than Heyer!

[tryfuhl]

Agreed Longtimefan

[SBXVII]

As I called it. No the "Team is not shopping AH." But they will entertain all trade offers. Per Shanahan himself. Big play on words. They can claim to deny shopping him but their available to anyone to wants to talk to them about him.

[RememberRFK]

The media is reporting that Fatal Bert will remain a Redskin, report to mandetory traing camp (duh) and play nose takle. You cannot tell me that Fatal Bert does not see these reports. It seems like the front office is sending a message to Fatal Bert. It is either the truth or some type of ill willed propaganda directed to Fatal Bert. I hope the coach gets Fatal Bert out in the nose tackle position and rubs his nose in it like I did to my dog last night. All I can picture in my mind when I think of Fatal Bert is the stupid look on his face that the media has been showing in the last couple of weeks, looks like he has gas.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by RememberRFK

The media is reporting that Fatal Bert will remain a Redskin, report to mandetory traing camp (duh) and play nose takle. You cannot tell me that Fatal Bert does not see these reports. It seems like the front office is sending a message to Fatal Bert. It is either the truth or some type of ill willed propaganda directed to Fatal Bert. I hope the coach gets Fatal Bert out in the nose tackle position and rubs his nose in it like I did to my dog last night. All I can picture in my mind when I think of Fatal Bert is the stupid look on his face that the media has been showing in the last couple of weeks, looks like he has gas.

Not a big fan, huh. Either way he is arguably the best player on the team and there is no question that the team is better with him on the field.

He is being selfish and approaching this wrong but he is still the most dominant defensive lineman in the game and he is one of the few players we have worth the price of the ticket.

Hopefully, they will utilize his strengths and have real success this year. Winning games will make all of this stuff disappear.

[SmootSmack]

Not sure I'm buying "Fatal Bert"

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Not sure I'm buying "Fatal Bert"

Yeah, that was pretty lame..

Let Albert come in and be productive this season-even with him being a pain in the ass this offseason-and move on from him in 2011. If he plays well, is a good soldier and regains his past form-he will be far more valuable in a trade than he is now coming off of a sub par, injury filled season and a public pissing match vs. the new coach.

Shanahan won't forget this but he probably won't be able to get value at this point in time.