Start John Beck Madness Thread

irish · 10-03-2011, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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I disagree. Beck has the ability to makes plays that can win you a game. Not saying he's the answer either but we know Grossman isn't.

How exactly do you know this since the minute amount of regular season starts Beck has shows the opposite. If Beck made plays that win games he wouldnt be a career back-up.

IMO, a lot of Rex's problems stem from him being too short. After watching him so far this season it just seems to me that he struggles to see over the line and that lack of vision creates his INT problems.

Longtimefan · 10-03-2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Rex is pretty short and I don't think he sees around the rushers, or even his own linemen very well. He'll make throws where you go, how the flying F did you not see the LB sitting right there square in the throwing lane??

There has been more than one occasion when Beck's mobility would have come in handy, too. Rex is what he is, decent passer when protected, and turnover prone when pressured. We'll start losing games because of him if we're not careful.

Not that Beck's really the answer, neither of them are the answer. So whatever, make the switch, don't make the switch, either way. If we're going to win, it won't be because of our QB.

That's been Grossman's excuse two weeks in a row....I didn't see the defender. Well, he gets paid to see, if he can't see he shouldn't be playing. We won yesterday despite his inability to see, thanks to a strong defensive effort and an inept opponent. I agree we will lose games as a result of his mistakes against more formidable opponents if these mistakes are allowed to continue.

SirClintonPortis · 10-03-2011, 08:45 AM

I think we give Grossman a few more games to see if this is just a bad string of games or if this is really the best he can do.

He earned the starting job. Let him "earn" his removal from that job, IF that ever happens. He's definitely capable of losing the job, but let's give him some more games. Maybe four or six more games.

Ruhskins · 10-03-2011, 09:07 AM

Beck had his opportunity to show what he has in two games in the preseason. He looked pretty average in one game and looked somewhat average against the Bucs 2nd stringers in the last game of the preseason. This probably wasn't fair to him given his injury, but sh*t happens. If Beck was a rookie QB or younger, I'd be all for starting him sometime this season if Rex causes us to lose more games. But he isn't, he's just another journeyman QB that won't be the future of any team (neither will be Rex by the way).

MTK · 10-03-2011, 09:09 AM

Neither Rex or Beck are the long term answers here anyway. Might as well ride Rex as long as we're winning. Makes no sense to make a change right now.

#56fanatic · 10-03-2011, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Neither Rex or Beck are the long term answers here anyway. Might as well ride Rex as long as we're winning. Makes no sense to make a change right now.

Absolutely.. Stay with Rex. I hate when this QB controversy stuff comes up. Rex knows this offense a whole of a lot better than Beck. Like I have said before, dude has done pretty decent this season. The last quarter in Dallas, and this game weren't so hot. But if Moss catches the one 3rd down ball that is a big gain, he cuts inside and may have taken it to the house there wasn't anyone behind the corner. Hightower doesn't drop the drive killer, who knows what happens. Instead you get a pick and a punt. THe two home games are a direct result of Rex (in my opinion) He made a nice drive to put the final TD up against the Giants, and that HUGE throw on 4th down against Arizona. SO people need to give it a rest.

Lotus · 10-03-2011, 09:42 AM

Wrecks sux. Beck is barf. It's time to start Good 'Ole Rockytop Jon Crompton!

SmootSmack · 10-03-2011, 09:28 AM

I feel that I greatly underestimated Anthony Armstrong. Hopefully he'll return in a couple of weeks and stretch this offense out a bit. I think maybe not having Young is hurting as well.

freddyg12 · 10-03-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I feel that I greatly underestimated Anthony Armstrong. Hopefully he'll return in a couple of weeks and stretch this offense out a bit. I think maybe not having Young is hurting as well.

Definitely, Tim Ryan even said that after watching tape of the dallas game our wr's werent getting open. AA's speed is sorely missed, we've got no real burners w/out him. I wonder if Hank is closer to seeing some action, Niles Paul was in for a lot of running plays.

I wondered about YOung too after the dallas game, but the running game & pass pro was great yesterday.

SmootSmack · 10-03-2011, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

Definitely, Tim Ryan even said that after watching tape of the dallas game our wr's werent getting open. AA's speed is sorely missed, we've got no real burners w/out him. I wonder if Hank is closer to seeing some action, Niles Paul was in for a lot of running plays.

I wondered about YOung too after the dallas game, but the running game & pass pro was great yesterday.

I would have thought maybe Austin would get a shot with AA sitting

hail_2_da_skins · 10-03-2011, 09:38 AM

T(Turnover)-Rex or Sexy Rexy, you never know which one will show up on Sunday. Sometimes they both show up on the same day. I think its too early to replace Rex. The play calling has to be better. The coaches need to realize this is a running team and call the game accordingly.

Monkeydad · 10-03-2011, 10:40 AM

If Rex's career history tells us anything, he'll come out with a MONSTER game vs Philly.

He's good-bad-good-bad...

He's been bad for two games, he's due to bust out again.

Look out Eagles.

I don't think anyone will complain if history repeats itself.

You'd all be thrilled just to make the Super Bowl, even if we lose. We've been suffering for a long time.

mooby · 10-03-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Monkeydad

If Rex's career history tells us anything, he'll come out with a MONSTER game vs Philly.

He's good-bad-good-bad...

He's been bad for two games, he's due to bust out again.

Look out Eagles.

I don't think anyone will complain if history repeats itself.

You'd all be thrilled just to make the Super Bowl, even if we lose. We've been suffering for a long time.

Not to make fun of Rex, but that picture has derp written all over it.

hooskins · 10-03-2011, 10:47 AM

"Talking QB change when 3 and 1: dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb!"

Lotus · 10-03-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

"Talking QB change when 3 and 1: dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb!"

I agree. But didn't Shanny bench Plummer for Cutler when the Broncos were 7-4?

10-03-2011, 08:45 AM	#3
SirClintonPortis Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,052	Re: Start John Beck Madness Thread I think we give Grossman a few more games to see if this is just a bad string of games or if this is really the best he can do. He earned the starting job. Let him "earn" his removal from that job, IF that ever happens. He's definitely capable of losing the job, but let's give him some more games. Maybe four or six more games. __________________ Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness". Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten. The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.

10-03-2011, 09:07 AM	#4
Ruhskins Living Legend Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 22,369	Re: Start John Beck Madness Thread Beck had his opportunity to show what he has in two games in the preseason. He looked pretty average in one game and looked somewhat average against the Bucs 2nd stringers in the last game of the preseason. This probably wasn't fair to him given his injury, but sh*t happens. If Beck was a rookie QB or younger, I'd be all for starting him sometime this season if Rex causes us to lose more games. But he isn't, he's just another journeyman QB that won't be the future of any team (neither will be Rex by the way). __________________ R.I.P. #21

10-03-2011, 09:42 AM	#7
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Start John Beck Madness Thread Wrecks sux. Beck is barf. It's time to start Good 'Ole Rockytop Jon Crompton! __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

10-03-2011, 09:28 AM	#8
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Start John Beck Madness Thread I feel that I greatly underestimated Anthony Armstrong. Hopefully he'll return in a couple of weeks and stretch this offense out a bit. I think maybe not having Young is hurting as well. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-03-2011, 09:38 AM	#11
hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 69 Posts: 868	Re: Start John Beck Madness Thread T(Turnover)-Rex or Sexy Rexy, you never know which one will show up on Sunday. Sometimes they both show up on the same day. I think its too early to replace Rex. The play calling has to be better. The coaches need to realize this is a running team and call the game accordingly. __________________ "HAIL TO THE SKINS"

10-03-2011, 09:09 AM	#5
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,766	Re: Start John Beck Madness Thread Neither Rex or Beck are the long term answers here anyway. Might as well ride Rex as long as we're winning. Makes no sense to make a change right now. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-03-2011, 10:40 AM	#12
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 46 Posts: 17,460	Re: Start John Beck Madness Thread If Rex's career history tells us anything, he'll come out with a MONSTER game vs Philly. He's good-bad-good-bad... He's been bad for two games, he's due to bust out again. Look out Eagles. I don't think anyone will complain if history repeats itself. You'd all be thrilled just to make the Super Bowl, even if we lose. We've been suffering for a long time. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster Last edited by Monkeydad; 10-03-2011 at 10:42 AM.

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