Trayvon Martin Case

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Here is the puzzling thing. If there is a witness that can collaborate that Martin was beating Zimmerman's head into the sidewalk, wouldn't that mean they were also witness to the shooting? Also, did that witness just sit there and do nothing? I'm amazed how so few people can act, yet they cry out if people don't help them out.

Someone posted or linked something a little back that sounded like one of the witnesses called 911 when hearing/seeing Zimmerman screaming for help. Maybe this witness was a kid, small female, old person, handicapped or just too much of a coward because of all the guns he owns. Maybe he did attempt to help. We just dont know. But like JoeRedskins is saying; based off of the facts we can go by and law this case adheres to, it appears, at this time, Zimmerman did not commit a crime.

Tragically a happy looking teenager with the rest of his life in front of him was shot and killed right after talking to his girlfriend after picking up some candy and a iced tea from a store during halftime of a b-ball game. Its easy for all of us to identify with this kid, and I can understand why people want vengeance on Zimmerman even if its without justification.

[los panda]

legally speaking?

[firstdown]

After this I think I'm going to buy a gun. I rather be an alive coward then a dead hero.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by firstdown

After this I think I'm going to buy a gun. I rather be an alive coward then a dead hero.

well im sure your neighbors will appreciate you roaming the streets of your neighborhood at night with a gun stopping children walking up the street to get a snack. you are a hero

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

well im sure your neighbors will appreciate you roaming the streets of your neighborhood at night with a gun stopping children walking up the street to get a snack. you are a hero

<point_laugh>

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

well im sure your neighbors will appreciate you roaming the streets of your neighborhood at night with a gun stopping children walking up the street to get a snack. you are a hero

To be honest if my neighborhood was having crime issues and I was on watch I would def. think of carrying a gun.

[firstdown]

I wonder why Trayvon called his GF and not 911?

[mlmpetert]

For those who keep trying to politicalize this (not saying anyone here is), the story keeps getting worse and worse for them.

Not only does Zimmerman have to be a White-Hispanic, from a multiracial family, with Black family members, but he and his wife also have to tutor 2 young kids that are Black, and he also has a friend who is Black willing to publically support. Now, to make matters even worse, it turns out the SOB is a registered Democrat!!!! The media better think of something quick because they are running out of angles.

Voting Form Shows George Zimmerman Is A Registered Democrat, Confounding Message Pushed By Left - International Business Times

[RedskinRat]

Hey Mods, we need to go to 5 stars for the rating on this thread, it's the best ever!

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

there is no arguement. You've made your point about the law, I get it. I dont agree with it and understand what your saying. I think laws were broken and lines were crossed. Im not changing my mind. I think there will be charges brought and rightfully so. There is speculation on both sides, sure. Mob mentality sure, cliche as ever. Zimmerman shoulda never messed with the kid period. You can't have people walking around with guns accusing people of wrong doing based on speculation, call the cops. He had no authority to do that.

But see this is my point... I haven't seen the proof that Zimmerman did anything but follow Martin around. I will tell you, I have done that too in my neighborhood.

The individuals I have followed have, on occasion, asked why I was following them. In those cases I have told them - I don't recognize them and I saw them looking in my neighbors cars and testing doors. I also tell them I have called the police and take their photo. Am I "harrasing" them? Am I "messing with them"? If one of them chooses to assault me or grab my phone is it my fault?

At some point, either Zimmerman or Martin started the verbal confrontation which apparently escalated. You assume it Zimmerman b/c he had a gun and was part of a neighborhood watch. Fair enough. You don't want to change your mind? Fine, not asking you to do so.

Just asking you to open it.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

But see this is my point... I haven't seen the proof that Zimmerman did anything but follow Martin around. I will tell you, I have done that too in my neighborhood.

The individuals I have followed have, on occasion, asked why I was following them. In those cases I have told them - I don't recognize them and I saw them looking in my neighbors cars and testing doors. I also tell them I have called the police and take their photo. Am I "harrasing" them? Am I "messing with them"? If one of them chooses to assault me or grab my phone is it my fault?

At some point, either Zimmerman or Martin started the verbal confrontation which apparently escalated. You assume it Zimmerman b/c he had a gun and was part of a neighborhood watch. Fair enough. You don't want to change your mind? Fine, not asking you to do so.

Just asking you to open it.

I gotcha, I keep an open mind too. But just do me that solid and wear your hoodie to court or your office this friday. We doing that here.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

But see this is my point... I haven't seen the proof that Zimmerman did anything but follow Martin around. I will tell you, I have done that too in my neighborhood.

The individuals I have followed have, on occasion, asked why I was following them. In those cases I have told them - I don't recognize them and I saw them looking in my neighbors cars and testing doors. I also tell them I have called the police and take their photo. Am I "harrasing" them? Am I "messing with them"? If one of them chooses to assault me or grab my phone is it my fault?

At some point, either Zimmerman or Martin started the verbal confrontation which apparently escalated. You assume it Zimmerman b/c he had a gun and was part of a neighborhood watch. Fair enough. You don't want to change your mind? Fine, not asking you to do so.

Just asking you to open it.

Your lucky You haven't been shot

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Your lucky You haven't been shot

Trust me, I am conscience of that. I have only done this in broad daylight when I know other neighbors are around. I purposely speak very loud, keep my distance, make it clear I am unarmed and am as polite as I can be. I also don't follow guys (yes, it's always guys doing this) wearing clothing that could easily conceal a gun. If someone reaches for something, I am jumping behind the nearest parked car.

At the same time, it's my neighborhood. I will not simply go into hiding and hope others will protect us - that's not the man I am nor the man I want my son to grow into.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Trust me, I am conscience of that. I have only done this in broad daylight when I know other neighbors are around. I purposely speak very loud, keep my distance, make it clear I am unarmed and am as polite as I can be. I also don't follow guys (yes, it's always guys doing this) wearing clothing that could easily conceal a gun. If someone reaches for something, I am jumping behind the nearest parked car.

At the same time, it's my neighborhood. I will not simply go into hiding and hope others will protect us - that's not the man I am nor the man I want my son to grow into.

best comment of the thread imo. if zimmerman would have done any of the things you listed out in your post i would imagine that martin would be alive, and they both would have walked away unscathed. it's things like this that should be drilled into everyone of these retards who think they need to walk around with a gun strapped to their side. instead they take a 2 hour course and are on their way.

it really is scary to think where the majority of our society is headed, common ****ing sense went out the window a long time ago. it's always nice to know there are some people out there that are doing it right, or at least trying to, and i thank you for that.

[JoeRedskin]

I wear my hoodie all the time friend. A black one with the 70th anniversary "Redskins" logo emblazoned across the front.