Skins Giants postgame

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

It's pretty clear now that RG3 and the read option covered up a lot of our issues last year. When your QB only throws 5 picks vs accounting for 27 TDs, that will cover up a lot of holes on any team.

Exactly. Last year he covered up all the problems and now this year he is not covering up all the problems and he is being blamed as if he is the problem. Griffins play is like maybe #10 on the list of problems with this team.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by celts32

Exactly. Last year he covered up all the problems and now this year he is not covering up all the problems and he is being blamed as if he is the problem. Griffins play is like maybe #10 on the list of problems with this team.

Agree and that's only if you lump and group some of the smaller problems.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Yep and now we don't really run it anymore so RG3 is changing his game and it takes time to learn a new style, plus we just lack the talent on O

We run it but defenses have adjusted and Griffin lacks that extra gear that made him such a threat last year. He's also a much more careful runner which is good, but it makes him less effective.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

We run it but defenses have adjusted and Griffin lacks that extra gear that made him such a threat last year. He's also a much more careful runner which is good, but it makes him less effective.

I'm fine w him not running, I'd rather him struggle learning to pass from the pocket then get injured running a college o

[DirtBagZ]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

We run it but defenses have adjusted and Griffin lacks that extra gear that made him such a threat last year. He's also a much more careful runner which is good, but it makes him less effective.

Very insightful, pretty much reached the same conclusion. You could see it during the past game against the Giants where he could not just blow past the defense. Even more so during the horrid Monday Night Massacre where he was getting blasted by 49ers. Whitner closed on him and blew him up near the sideline, made me cringe watching it. Have not seen any signs this season of the burst like last year he had against the Vikings when no one could catch him. The big question is will he ever had that type of speed again?

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by DirtBagZ

The big question is will he ever had that type of speed again?

Barring further injury, when he can take the knee brace off, yes IMO.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Barring further injury, when he can take the knee brace off, yes IMO.

Yeah next year he'll definitely be much closer to his old self. Hard to believe he's still less than a year removed from a serious injury.

[Sonny9TD]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Barring further injury, when he can take the knee brace off, yes IMO.

That might be the reason he can't turn it on. Being careful doesn't make you less effective. He got all the yards he could get. It's not like he said I can get more yards if I run head on to these tacklers. He got all he could get. Last year there was more running room and he took it. The times he tried to get more yards that were not there was when he got his block nearly knocked off. The open field isn't there like it was last year. Even Morris didn't do as well .RG3s speed is what is in question and that brace can't help that.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Sonny9TD

That might be the reason he can't turn it on. Being careful doesn't make you less effective. He got all the yards he could get. It's not like he said I can get more yards if I run head on to these tacklers. He got all he could get. Last year there was more running room and he took it. The times he tried to get more yards that were not there was when he got his block nearly knocked off. The open field isn't there like it was last year. Even Morris didn't do as well .RG3s speed is what is in question and that brace can't help that.

He basically heads toward the sideline when he runs now. He doesn't have the same reckless abandon and that's a good thing, and teams this year are more than willing to let him take the 8-10 yard runs vs the big ones he would rip off last year.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by DirtBagZ

The big question is will he ever had that type of speed again?

He'll be quick but not as fast as before and definitely not on that field (FedEx)

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I was being sarcastic in my previous comment. I know the coaches are responsible for a lot of what is going on. But at the same time, my point is that we are not very talented, and that also needs to be fixed.

A lot of our current players plain suck and shouldn't be starting on an NFL team. But due to a combination of poor planning (coaches/management) and bad fortune (36 mil cap hit) they are starting.

Well nobody is going to argue that. I made a list of all the holes that need to be filled. I count about 13 starters and several back ups and ST starters. Its bad. That is a hell of alot more than 36 mill will get you though. Its just a horrendous situation. Im hoping we hit a homerun on a few key pick ups/ draft picks , that Griff is comfortable next year mentally and physically with whatever the hell scheme we are running (or whomever the hells scheme we are running) , and of course that we have a competent staff in place. Than we become a competitive team. A playoff caliber team. You just gotta be in it to win it.

[kct1975]

Originally Posted by Giantone

... definitely not on that field (FedEx)

Ya...what in the heck is wrong with the field at FedEx!

You'd think with all of the bad press the Redskins got last season about the poor condition of the field, they would completely replace it!

[theJBexperience]

I can't get over how bad the Skins played in this game. The Giants are a terrible team, and we were at home, should've been rebounding from national embarassment. Nope.

I wonder if we didn't have that cap penalty and were able to get some of the FA's we were interested in but couldn't afford, how much better we'd be. Aqib Talib, VJax, Toler, I'm forgetting others, but we'd be a different team w/ those three alone. Could you imagine VJax deep, Garçon underneath? Man, defenses would've been spread out. Oh, what could've been. Thanks, John Mara.

[skinsfaninok]

Washington Redskins back in familiar spot - ESPN

[GTripp0012]

I think some people may be under the impression that RG3 is normally just fast enough to outrun pursuit by defensive linemen, but I think guys like Justin Tuck are always going to be able to track down even the fastest quarterbacks when they are looking downfield. That's not a knee or leg issue, just try running as fast as you can someday while looking in a completely different direction than you are running. It will slow you down considerably.