Haynesworth is Behaving Selfishly

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

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If I never see Jared report on the Redskins again, it will be too soon.

[12thMan]

For what it's worth, I was listening to JLC and Jason Reid on 106 The Fan this morning and JLC still believes there is a possibility that Haynesworth will begin the season with the Redskins, but may get moved before the trading deadline, especially if the Redskins are playing good ball. There seems to be an argument, if not within the organization, definitely within the media and among fans that a divorce may be inevitable and unavoidable.

Jason Reid, whom I think is more objective and knowledgeable in his reporting of the Redskins, had some very interesting insight regarding Haynesworth's situation. In that, the team that signed Haynesworth isn't the same team he's currently playing for. JR went into detail, per multiple sources within the organization, how Haynesworth and Blache were on the phone in the beginning stages of negotiations and AH basically said during the conversation, "I'm more comfortable in scheme XYZ" and there are certain things I want to do and certain things I don't want to do. And for this to work, I need to be in the right situation. After the conversation seemed to be headed no where fast between AH and Blache, Snyder stepped in right there and said, (paraphrasing) look, we want you here and we're willing to make you happy. We should have no problem doing some of these things you feel will make you a better defensive tackle. The rest is history. From there on out, Snyder drove the process and kept Tampa Bay, among other suiters, on the sidelines.

But what Reid was really pointing out was that Snyder and Haynesworth had direct contact from the very beginning and he had his way of putting pressure on the staff, and whomever else, to keep Haynesworth happy. Now under Shanny and Allen, Snyder has ceded personnel and agent contact to Bruce Allen. Whereas previously, many faces within the organization had contact with player's agents. Now there appears to be no contact, or at least nowhere near what was initially established between Snyder and Haynesworth.

So I can see why Haynesworth is probably a little sour, if that's even the case, about how things have played out. Not only has the staff and scheme changed, but there has also been a dramatic shift in the culture and the very relationship with the owner that got him here in the first place.

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

For what it's worth, I was listening to JLC and Jason Reid on 106 The Fan this morning and JLC still believes there is a possibility that Haynesworth will begin the season with the Redskins, but may get moved before the trading deadline, especially if the Redskins are playing good ball. There seems to be an argument, if not within the organization, definitely within the media and fans that a divorce may be inevitable and unavoidable.

Jason Reid, whom I think is more objective and knowledgeable in his reporting of the Redskins, had some very interesting insight regarding Haynesworth's situation. In that, the team that signed Haynesworth isn't the same team he's currently playing for. JR went into detail, per multiple sources within the organization, how Haynesworth and Blache were on the phone in the beginning stages of negotiations and AH basically said during the conversation, "I'm more comfortable in scheme XYZ" and there are certain things I want to do and certain things I don't want to do. And for this to work, I need to be in the right situation. After the conversation seemed to be headed no where fast between AH and Blache, Snyder stepped in right there and said, (paraphrasing) look, we want you here and we're willing to make you happy. We should have no problem doing some of these things you feel will make you a better defensive tackle. The rest is history. From there on out, Snyder drove the process and kept Tampa Bay, among other suiters, on the sidelines.

But what Reid was really pointing out was that Snyder and Haynesworth had direct contact from the very beginning and he had his way of putting pressure on the staff, and whomever else, to keep Haynesworth happy. Now under Shanny and Allen, Snyder has ceded personnel and agent contact to Bruce Allen. Whereas previously, many faces within the organization had contact with player's agents. Now there appears to be no contact, or at least nowhere near what was initially established between Snyder and Haynesworth.

So I can see why Haynesworth is probably a little sour, if that's even the case, about how things have played out. Not only has the staff and scheme changed, but there has also been a dramatic shift in the culture and the very relationship with the owner that got him here in the first place.

Thats very intresting, so AH was pretty much was given the ok to act like a spoiled brat before he even signed with us. Allen and Shanny have FINALLY cut the direct line to DS and all the prima donna BS will finally be over. I want AH here for years to come but if he really is just acting out against the powers that be, because the new scheme. I would rather AH set on the bench all season than trade him for a 3rd or 4th round pick that there would set a president that a change is here.

Do I want to see him benched no, but I cant keep seeing us being the team that makes these horrible moves. I feel good about the direction we are going right now more than my usual optimism.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Good god. If that is the way DS handles his football business there is no wonder why we sucked and were never rewarded with the big payoff from signing these types of guys. As another note, for the player to think that he can come in and have the owner tell the staff what to do with so and so player, really takes the coaching aspect out of things. Wonder why there has been no way to get these guys to gell? Or for that matter why we couldn't win? The Zorn and Blache experiment was doomed from the word go under that logic. No when Gibbs 2.0 ran things we were a little more organized.

Now that we have gotten rid of the dead weight and Synder turned the team over to people who really know wtf they are doing, we may finally have some success. I pray that we do so Synder learn that he needs to keep his little hands off the football team and let the guys who know how to run an organization handle the football side of things. He can still pump the Redskins Propaganda but at least now we do have some hope for a brighter future as a respectible franchise.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Good god. If that is the way DS handles his football business there is no wonder why we sucked and were never rewarded with the big payoff from signing these types of guys. As another note, for the player to think that he can come in and have the owner tell the staff what to do with so and so player, really takes the coaching aspect out of things. Wonder why there has been no way to get these guys to gell? Or for that matter why we couldn't win? The Zorn and Blache experiment was doomed from the word go under that logic. No when Gibbs 2.0 ran things we were a little more organized.

Now that we have gotten rid of the dead weight and Synder turned the team over to people who really know wtf they are doing, we may finally have some success. I pray that we do so Synder learn that he needs to keep his little hands off the football team and let the guys who know how to run an organization handle the football side of things. He can still pump the Redskins Propaganda but at least now we do have some hope for a brighter future as a respectible franchise.

Even under Gibbs 2.0 things were a little laxed at Redskins Park. Again, Jason Reid was talking about how under Jim Zorn players would be in the weight room very chatty and not really into it. Under Shanny it's more intense, focused, and the climate has definitely shifted. I don't think anyone is suggesting that players didn't workout under Zorn or Gibbs, but I get the sense that they were going through the motions and just punching the clock.

The one thing that I keep hearing over and over again is that for the first time in a long time, perhaps since Snyder has owned the team, there is an air of professionalism at Redskins Park. They are actually run like an NFL organization from top to bottom, and they're not doing things and bringing in players by the seat of their pants. Bruce Allen has plan in place; Shanahan has a plan in place.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Even under Gibbs 2.0 things were a little laxed at Redskins Park. Again, Jason Reid was talking about how under Jim Zorn players would be in the weight room very chatty and not really into it. Under Shanny it's more intense, focused, and the climate has definitely shifted. I don't think anyone is suggesting that players didn't workout under Zorn or Gibbs, but I get the sense that they were going through the motions and just punching the clock.

The one thing that I keep hearing over and over again is that for the first time in a long time, perhaps since Snyder has owned the team, there is an air of professionalism at Redskins Park. They are actually run like an NFL organization from top to bottom, and they're not doing things and bringing in players by the seat of their pants. Bruce Allen has plan in place; Shanahan has a plan in place.

Agreed. Its a nice starting point.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Even under Gibbs 2.0 things were a little laxed at Redskins Park. Again, Jason Reid was talking about how under Jim Zorn players would be in the weight room very chatty and not really into it. Under Shanny it's more intense, focused, and the climate has definitely shifted. I don't think anyone is suggesting that players didn't workout under Zorn or Gibbs, but I get the sense that they were going through the motions and just punching the clock.

The one thing that I keep hearing over and over again is that for the first time in a long time, perhaps since Snyder has owned the team, there is an air of professionalism at Redskins Park. They are actually run like an NFL organization from top to bottom, and they're not doing things and bringing in players by the seat of their pants. Bruce Allen has plan in place; Shanahan has a plan in place.

I'm paraphrasing, but I read a NFL.com chat the other day with JLC and he said the Skins are a real organization again from the top down thanks to Allen/Shanahan. He said the sleeping giant is awake.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'm paraphrasing, but I read a NFL.com chat the other day with JLC and he said the Skins are a real organization again from the top down thanks to Allen/Shanahan. He said the sleeping giant is awake.

I guess what I'm most encouraged about, as weird as this may sound, is that even if we don't have a stellar season, it won't be due to incompetence. I have a feeling that teams will actually have to outplay the Redskins to beat them this year. You have to figure this team is at least 3 games better than last years squad.

We'll have our share of injuries, set backs or what have you, but we'll also go into game more prepared and ready to compete. Last year it was anyone's guess which Redskins would show up from one week to the next. To me that was most frustrating thing about the Zorn era, and to a lesser extent the Gibbs 2.0. We were never Detroit or Oakland bad, but we struggled with those bastards week in and week out. Along those lines, I think Donovan McNabb brings a dimension of game day readiness that we've lacked for years at the quarterback position. There's not too much that's going to surprise this guy in the NFC East this year.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Also giving a player that much control over how he is used is stupid for not only the team but also the player in general.

[Dirtbag59]

Dallas Cowboys receiver Roy Williams not ready to give up starting job - ESPN Dallas

I thought Owens left Dallas.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Let him keep it. That was about as bad as the trade for ducket. No wait, its worse.

[MTK]

Albert Haynesworth Will Be Here – Bruce Allen on ‘Total Access’

[CRedskinsRule]

Nice article Matty

clearly BA hasn't been listening here:

After this question, Bruce Allen didn’t miss a beat.

““Well, there’s conversations going on all the time with our players,” Allen responded, “and Albert has elected not to be a part of the volunteer program and we understand that because he wants to work with his private trainer and we’ll respect that decision.”
...
Well Rich, a lot of the reports that have been out there, whether its trades or things of that nature, simply aren’t true in the Albert Haynesworth situation. ...”

The Oompa Loompas are up in arms!

[MTK]

And this:

Rich Eisen countered, “But he has made it very clear he doesn’t want to play the defense that, uh, Jim Haslett has been brought in to install. And there‘s been a lot made about what you (being the team) – about what he can do to fit into this defense. Is there any… …are you frustrated that he hasn’t, I guess, trusted you guys in that respect and to come in and work along with you?”

After this question, Bruce Allen didn’t miss a beat.

“Well Rich, a lot of the reports that have been out there, whether its trades or things of that nature, simply aren’t true in the Albert Haynesworth situation.

[53Fan]

“Well Rich, a lot of the reports that have been out there, whether its trades or things of that nature, simply aren’t true in the Albert Haynesworth situation.

But....but....but......