Classless Coach Belichick

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by irish

I dont think A-holes win all the time. They win & lose like everyone else. Also, are you saying BB is evil? Thats a stretch if I ever heard one. A-hole and evil are not synonyms.

I was responding to 12th's post...but I'll clarify anyway.

I didn't mean assholes win all the time as in they win 100% of the time, but as in it's very common to see them win, not an unusual event.

I put "evil" and "good" in quotes to hopefully make the hyperbole obvious. I'm not equating Belichick with Adolf Hitler, just illustrating the difference between the "good guys" in the NFL and the "bad guys."

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Fair enough. Not to get too deep here, but as a real friend do you think you have any obligation to be honest with your friends is wrong? That they're potentially destroying their families?

I look at it this way. They are grown men and they are old enough to know what is right from wrong. It is not my obligation to tell them that they are wrong. They already know they are wrong.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by irish

I dont think he said its ok for them to cheat. I think he just feels its none of his business what grown men do in their private life.

I don't know about you guys, but I tend to look at what my friends do in their private lives. I could care less what kind of stuff they do at work, but I befriend people because of who they are in their private lives. On that note, I don't befriend guys who are constantly cheating on their wives. Guys that cheat on their wives are probably not the most loyal individuals and are not the kind of guys I would rely on to have my back in a pinch.

Oh, and so as to not threadjack.....Belichick is an a-hole.

[12thMan]

I think the Patriots are the new Oakland Raiders and we're just coming to terms with this.

[VTSkins897]

i didnt have time to read through all this... but, in my opinion, if you are personally offended by the patriots "running up the score", you're... well what's the nicest way to say acting like a girl (nothing against girls).

id rather lose by 100 than be given a 'favor'. we should have just blitzed them and busted his ass up. the point is that it's up to us to do something about it.

ask most of the pros and i'll wager they say the same. i think we're all just disappointed by the fact thats its a tough loss. unfortunately the game shows how inferior we are, and most teams are, to the pats

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mheisig

If you don't judge a person's character by their actions, particular whether they cheat or not, than what the hell DO you judge their character by? Or do you just arbitrarily determine that someone is a "good person" and stick with that notion regardless of the facts of their actions?

I personally don't judge my friends character cause they fool around every once in a while. I have known these guys for over half of my life. Some for almost my whole life. These are real loyal guys as far as our friendship is concerned. I already know their character.

If they didn't pay child support, beat their wives/children, or were bad fathers then we have a different story. I would most certainly not be friends with anyone like this.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by VTSkins897

i didnt have time to read through all this... but, in my opinion, if you are personally offended by the patriots "running up the score", you're... well what's the nicest way to say acting like a girl (nothing against girls).

id rather lose by 100 than be given a 'favor'. we should have just blitzed them and busted his ass up. the point is that it's up to us to do something about it.

ask most of the pros and i'll wager they say the same. i think we're all just disappointed by the fact thats its a tough loss. unfortunately the game shows how inferior we are, and most teams are, to the pats

LOL!!! We did nothing about it and that is what bothers me most. To allow Matt Cassell to run for a score is just insane.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I personally don't judge my friends character cause they fool around every once in a while. I have known these guys for over half of my life. Some for almost my whole life. These are real loyal guys as far as our friendship is concerned. I already know their character.

If they didn't pay child support, beat their wives/children, or were bad fathers then we have a different story. I would most certainly not be friends with anyone like this.

I'm so glad you have high standards.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I think the Patriots are the new Oakland Raiders and we're just coming to terms with this.

I didn't see any personal fouls or unsportsmenlike conduct penalty's on NE yesterday. I didn't see any of their DB's hitting our sorry ass Wr's late. I didn't see any of their D-linemen hitting JC late. I saw no dirty play from NE what so ever. I just saw a straight up beat down and we couldn't do anything about it.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mheisig

I'm so glad you have high standards.

I could care less what you think.

[irish]

Originally Posted by mheisig

I'm so glad you have high standards.

More holier-than-thou BS.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I didn't see any personal fouls or unsportsmenlike conduct penalty's on NE yesterday. I didn't see any of their DB's hitting our sorry ass Wr's late. I didn't see any of their D-linemen hitting JC late. I saw no dirty play from NE what so ever. I just saw a straight up beat down and we couldn't do anything about it.

No, I meant in the context of the team everybody loves to hate. How they play by their own rules, so to speak. Not implying that they are dirty by any means, just how they've drawn the line in the sand with the Commish.

[BleedBurgundy]

I think some people here need to consider changing their avatar if they've got such a crush on Bill B and the Boys...

[skinsnut68]

Here's Michael Wilbon of the Washington Post on the Pats:

"Belichick is on a maniacal mission to crush everybody's skull because the NFL had nerve to call him on cheating. That's what this is. He's foaming at the mouth like a rabid dog trying to crush the life out of every team the Patriots face. You know what...that's fair. But I'd like to see an opposing team play the Patriots with the same violent intent the Patriots play with. I think you'll see the school yard bully met with force this Sunday in Indy..."

and

"if I was on the opposing team, I'd hit Tom Brady with everything I had as late as I could and take the penalty and join the fight that would surely follow. Football is a violent game and there's got to be somebody out there sharpening his fans for the Patriots Golden Boy in the 4th quarter one of these weeks."

I agree 100% Belichick has every right to run up the score . . . and opposing teams have every right to make him and his players pay for it.

The Pats have become like the seventies Raiders. They should get the same back. How do you think John Madden or Lyle Alzado would have reacted if someone had tried to run up the score on them!?!?

[SmootSmack]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't know how much of a grown man someone is who cheats like it's no big deal. I don't know you're friends skinsfan69 and I don't doubt that they mean a lot to you. And this isn't an affront on you. But if you're going to be a "man" and take on the responsibility of a wive and kids. Then act like a real man, and have some respect for the people you love. If you can't do that, be man enough to do like skinsfan69 is doing and don't get married.

Reminds me of the brilliant Chris Rock skit. "I take care of my kids...I've never been to jail" "What do you want, a cookie? You low-expectation having mofo"

(man I've really gone off on a tangent on this thread)