Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe

Beemnseven · 02-07-2007, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

Don't get me wrong, I agree with everything being said here.

My only is, the media tends to strike a tone that the Redskins have all FA starting on both sides of the ball.

The focus tends to be on that particular organizational failure, which is a legitimate one, but you rarely hear about the homegrown talent we do have.

On defense, the entire starting defensive line are not original Redskin draftees. Golston and Montgomery are back-ups. In fact, this organization hasn't drafted a defensive lineman that plays with any regularity since ... can anyone guess?

Linebackers -- Washington (drafted by the Colts) Holdman (not the Redskins)

Only Rogers and Sean Taylor have spent their entire careers only in D.C.

Offense is a little better with the line (minus Rabach and Thomas), Betts, Cooley and Campbell.

And Matty, you're right -- we're stuck with this system until someone else takes over, or they're done giving up picks for RFAs.

Let's all hope that Gibbs & Co. are going to prove us wrong about acquiring players.

Who here thinks that will actually happen?

Defensewins · 02-07-2007, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Same old, same old.

Sorry but for anyone who is sick of this current front office stategy the only thing I can recommend is to stop following the team, because with so little draft picks this year how else do you think they are going to approach this offseason? Get ready for more of the same.

How about showing restraint and patience? We are not going to magically become a Super Bowl team in one offseason, they need to stop trying to fix it all at once.
They could reside themselves to taking a few years and build off the draft. Sign a few cheaper FA and avoid the big name/big dollar FA signing.

Beemnseven · 02-07-2007, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

In fact, this organization hasn't drafted a defensive lineman that plays with any regularity since ... can anyone guess?

I'll answer my own question. And tell me honestly if you're not astounded by this...

The last time the Redskins drafted a defensive lineman that turned out to be a starter was Rich Owens in the 5th round of 1995.

Not in 11 years until Golston and Montegomery did we draft another D-lineman that played with any consistency.

Am I missing something here? Is anyone here not stunned by this fact?

#56fanatic · 02-07-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Same old, same old.

Sorry but for anyone who is sick of this current front office stategy the only thing I can recommend is to stop following the team, because with so little draft picks this year how else do you think they are going to approach this offseason? Get ready for more of the same.

being fans of our team gives us the right to complain or complement them on what they do. Jumping ship to another team.....come on are you serious. We all will root for our team year end and year out. unfortunately, we have been rooting for a losing team more than a winning team. All I think we are saying is until this trade picks for (fill in the blank) mentality stops or slows down, people will be frustraded. Not frustrated enough to jump ship, but frustrated to say the least. I live in NC, and I can tell you they have jumped ship to the Panthers down here (I can't stand the Panthers, they are #2 or #3 on my hate list) Most of the comments are they dont like Snyder (which I do like Snyder) or the way they run the team, blah..blah..blah.
I just have not seen a team win consistantly with our approach. If you know of one, please point them out. It hasn't worked in 7 or 8 years. I think that would send a message to the powers that be that they may need to change their strategy.

12thMan · 02-07-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

On defense, the entire starting defensive line are not original Redskin draftees. Golston and Montgomery are back-ups. In fact, this organization hasn't drafted a defensive lineman that plays with any regularity since ... can anyone guess?

Linebackers -- Washington (drafted by the Colts) Holdman (not the Redskins)

Only Rogers and Sean Taylor have spent their entire careers only in D.C.

Offense is a little better with the line (minus Rabach and Thomas), Betts, Cooley and Campbell.

And Matty, you're right -- we're stuck with this system until someone else takes over, or they're done giving up picks for RFAs.

Let's all hope that Gibbs & Co. are going to prove us wrong about acquiring players.

Who here thinks that will actually happen?

Golston starts. Like I said, Sellers...Marshall depending on how you look at it.

#56fanatic · 02-07-2007, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Are teams like the Browns, Cardinals, Texans, and Lions built mainly through free agency or the draft?
He's right about the teams that he sited: they are consistantly good and they do consistantly build their teams through the draft rather than free agency; but couldn't this be because they have a good front office and coaches? There are plenty of teams out there that try to build themselves up the "right way" that still blow year in and year out.

ding ding ding... I think a point that a ton of us have said time and time again. FRONT OFFICE!! we have none, or one with any football knowledge in terms of building from the ground up or building for a future.

GhettoDogAllStars · 02-07-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Defensewins

How about showing restraint and patience? We are not going to magically become a Super Bowl team in one offseason, they need to stop trying to fix it all at once.
They could reside themselves to taking a few years and build off the draft. Sign a few cheaper FA and avoid the big name/big dollar FA signing.

I agree with you. However, I don't think Gibbs wants to "rebuild". Unfortunately, that probably hurts us in the long run.

12thMan · 02-07-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

ding ding ding... I think a point that a ton of us have said time and time again. FRONT OFFICE!! we have none, or one with any football knowledge in terms of building from the ground up or building for a future.

56fan, you kill me with the ding!! ding!! bit!

ArtMonkDrillz · 02-07-2007, 02:30 PM

I'm just happy that I got dinged

12thMan · 02-07-2007, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

I'm just happy that I got dinged

uhh...yeah!

SmootSmack · 02-07-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I'll answer my own question. And tell me honestly if you're not astounded by this...

The last time the Redskins drafted a defensive lineman that turned out to be a starter was Rich Owens in the 5th round of 1995.

Not in 11 years until Golston and Montegomery did we draft another D-lineman that played with any consistency.

Am I missing something here? Is anyone here not stunned by this fact?

What about Kenard Lang?

ArtMonkDrillz · 02-07-2007, 02:35 PM

The way I see it people just don't like Snyder because of his money and his preceived arrogence. If the Skins method of building a team worked people like Cowherd would probably just say that he's trying to buy a good team instead of building one.

FRPLG · 02-07-2007, 02:38 PM

I have tired of this discussion.

ArtMonkDrillz · 02-07-2007, 02:39 PM

What does Barbaro have to do with this?

12thMan · 02-07-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

What does Barbaro have to do with this?

That's just cruel, dude

02-07-2007, 02:30 PM	#24
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Age: 42 Posts: 8,029	Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe I'm just happy that I got dinged __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude

02-07-2007, 02:35 PM	#27
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Age: 42 Posts: 8,029	Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe The way I see it people just don't like Snyder because of his money and his preceived arrogence. If the Skins method of building a team worked people like Cowherd would probably just say that he's trying to buy a good team instead of building one. __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude

02-07-2007, 02:38 PM	#28
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe I have tired of this discussion.

02-07-2007, 02:39 PM	#29
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Age: 42 Posts: 8,029	Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe What does Barbaro have to do with this? __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude

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