Leonard Davis to Cowboys....

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Doing that would have really handcuffed us for this offseason.

Matty - I agree with you - I just hate our team losing guys without getting anything in return. Oh well - maybe Puchillo will fill in admirably or we trade down and put a rookie in who surprises us.

[jrocx69]

Originally Posted by Bill B

Schneed - I agree with you - the money being thrown around on players is silly money in my book.

One question though - could the FO have at least tried to place the franchise or transition tag on Dockery so we could have at least gotten some draft picks in return or were the Skins too restricted by the cap?

franchise dock? lmao

[Beemnseven]

Some people think they richly deserve it.

[freddyg12]

The FO certainly deserves negative reviews based on the past, but I do think that you have to be encouraged by what we've seen so far. Sure, I'd have loved to see us sign Dock last year, but the jury was still out on him getting HALF what he just got, and I give credit to his agent for playing the market well.
I'll be really convinced the FO has changed if we trade down & grab some extra picks.
I understand why people are still skeptical, this isn't the first time we've shown restraint when we didn't have the cap space, remember when Samari Rolle was on the market in 05?
But gibbs' sounds like they've learned their lesson, and J. clayton said the same thing on espn. I'll wait till after the draft to see how much they've changed, but I like what I see so far. Letting Davis walk was a great non-move, especially since the Boys paid way too much for him.

[steveo395]

Davis got $49.6 million, $18.75 guaranteed, with $24 million in the first 3 years. They overpaid so much. He's not even that good.

ESPN.com - NFL - Cowboys finalize deal with prized tackle Davis

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by steveo395

Davis got $49.6 million, $18.75 guaranteed, with $24 million in the first 3 years. They overpaid so much. He's not even that good.

ESPN.com - NFL - Cowboys finalize deal with prized tackle Davis

yikes. wonder how mad they'll be when they find out he sucks...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by steveo395

Davis got $49.6 million, $18.75 guaranteed, with $24 million in the first 3 years. They overpaid so much. He's not even that good.

ESPN.com - NFL - Cowboys finalize deal with prized tackle Davis

NFL teams really are losing their minds with these insane deals going to guards.

Anyone remember the shit we took for stealing Thomas away from the Jets?? I remember Lenny P slamming the Skins pretty good for giving a guard big money.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think it's time to praise our front office a bit for remaining cool, calm, and collected in the midst of an insane market.

We've kept our heads about us and haven't done anything to severely jeopardize our cap future.

I'll wait to see how they do with the draft before I heap any praise upon them.

As far as free agency goes, I believe it's been more a testament to their inability to do anything insane as opposed to their desire to do something like that.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I'll wait to see how they do with the draft before I heap any praise upon them.

As far as free agency goes, I believe it's been more a testament to their inability to do anything insane as opposed to their desire to do something like that.

This doesn't make any sense? Whether if you're one to look at something half full or half empty, you can't deny the fact that the front office has done a good job with free agency this offseason. We all know what Fred Smoot is capable of, and he is a definite upgrade for our secondary. And Fletcher is a 2-3 year upgrade for our team and his contract reflects that fact. I'd say they do deserve some credit for signing guys who fit well in our defense and these upgrades reflect a win now attitude, which is what the fans want as well.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

This doesn't make any sense? Whether if you're one to look at something half full or half empty, you can't deny the fact that the front office has done a good job with free agency this offseason. We all know what Fred Smoot is capable of, and he is a definite upgrade for our secondary. And Fletcher is a 2-3 year upgrade for our team and his contract reflects that fact. I'd say they do deserve some credit for signing guys who fit well in our defense and these upgrades reflect a win now attitude, which is what the fans want as well.

If you want to do high-fives over London Fletcher and Fred Smoot, go right ahead. I'm comfortable with them, but let's see how they pan out first, that's all I'm saying.

With our cap situation, there wasn't a whole the front office could do.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

If you want to do high-fives over London Fletcher and Fred Smoot, go right ahead. I'm comfortable with them, but let's see how they pan out first, that's all I'm saying.

With our cap situation, there wasn't a whole the front office could do.

What did you want our front office to do? They have done exactly what we have all complained about them not doing in the past. True, we didn't have alot of cap room, but we still picked up good quality players for the amount of cap room we had, which translates into good moves in the offseason. I'm sure if you look at the NFL as a whole you will realize that the Redskins aren't doing anything different than what other NFL franchises are doing.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I'll wait to see how they do with the draft before I heap any praise upon them.

As far as free agency goes, I believe it's been more a testament to their inability to do anything insane as opposed to their desire to do something like that.

Not sure what you mean, after all we could have re-signed Dockery even at that crazy number. We could have made some other crazy moves too, if this front office wants to do something, they will. We could have easily dropped guys like Wynn, Daniels, Hall, Patten, etc., cleared a bunch of cap room and went to town in free agency.

We're definitely seeing a much more cautious approach.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Not sure what you mean, after all we could have re-signed Dockery even at that crazy number. We could have made some other crazy moves too, if this front office wants to do something, they will. We could have easily dropped guys like Wynn, Daniels, Hall, Patten, etc., cleared a bunch of cap room and went to town in free agency.

We're definitely seeing a more cautious approach to free agency.

The point is, if we had gobs of cap space, wouldn't it be more of the same?

The fact that they didn't re-sign Dock doesn't surprise me. Retaining their current "core" guys doesn't really fit their pattern.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

The point is, if we had gobs of cap space, wouldn't it be more of the same?

The fact that they didn't re-sign Dock doesn't surprise me. Retaining their current "core" guys doesn't really fit their pattern.

Like I said, had they wanted to they could have cleared alot more room and went to town.

Dock wasn't worth $49M, so core guy or not I don't see how anyone can hate on the fact they let him walk.

[GoSkins!]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

The point is, if we had gobs of cap space, wouldn't it be more of the same?

The fact that they didn't re-sign Dock doesn't surprise me. Retaining their current "core" guys doesn't really fit their pattern.

If signing a first round choice like Carter last year and giving him a 10mil signing bonus was stupid then what would it be to give our 5th best offensive lineman a 18 million dollar bonus?

Also, who decided that every guy that starts has been identified as a core redskin? I think there are "core redskins" and then there are "some that could possibly become core redskins". Dockery was almost a core guy, but if we had to lose a lineman, I'm glad was him and not one of the other guys. I'd like to see if we could get Wade and have him move inside. If it doesn't work, he is still excellent depth.