The Last Briggs Thread? Bears Say No Deal

[dall-assblows]

damn it...........JK SWEET

[MTK]

I really hope this is the end of it. I'd like to see them develop Rocky.

That being said, the fact that they were looking at Briggs really speaks volumes as to what they think about the 6th pick.

The Skins really want out of that pick. So much so that they were willing to trade it for a player that doesn't fill a glaring need.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I really hope this is the end of it. I'd like to see them develop Rocky.

That being said, the fact that they were looking at Briggs really speaks volumes as to what they think about the 6th pick.

The Skins really want out of that pick. So much so that they were willing to trade it for a player that doesn't fill a glaring need.

Or it speaks volumes about what they think about Rocky. And for that matter Marshall too.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Or it speaks volumes about what they think about Rocky. And for that matter Marshall too.

Nah, I believe that they are high on Rocky given what they gave up for him last year, and if the Skins were so down on him they would have gladly offered him up to the Bears.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Nah, I believe that they are high on Rocky given what they gave up for him last year, and if the Skins were so down on him they would have gladly offered him up to the Bears.

I think they were high on him before they drafted him. But they are not high on him now. Perhaps he makes too many mentals errors in practice which is what I think the problem is. Otherwise Holdman (who was the worst LB I have ever seen take an NFL field) would have been benched last season and this trade would have never been proposed.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Or it speaks volumes about what they think about Rocky. And for that matter Marshall too.

Well I think we can all agree that Briggs is better than Rocky and Marshall and he would be an upgrade to our LB corps. I think this is just another case of our FO looking for the quick fix instead of letting their young players develop.

I really hope this is the end of it. I don't want to hear anything else about the Skins until draft day when Goodell steps up the podium and says "with the 6th pick in the NFL 2007 draft the Redskins select......".

[RMSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Or it speaks volumes about what they think about Rocky. And for that matter Marshall too.

I disagree I think Rocky and Lemar will do fine, and I also think the COACHING STAFF thinks highly of McIntosh and Marshall. I believe this really just boiled down to Snyder wanting to make another huge FA splash, he just can't resist the urge can he? So since Snyder probably has no idea about football, he probably thought Briggs would come over here and do great with us since he was so great in Chicago and unfortunatly it doesn't work that way, or we would've one the Super Bowl the last five years.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

I disagree I think Rocky and Lemar will do fine, and I also think the COACHING STAFF thinks highly of McIntosh and Marshall. I believe this really just boiled down to Snyder wanting to make another huge FA splash, he just can't resist the urge can he? So since Snyder probably has no idea about football, he probably thought Briggs would come over here and do great with us since he was so great in Chicago and unfortunatly it doesn't work that way, or we would've one the Super Bowl the last five years.

Makes you wonder if when Snyder said Gibbs calls all the shots he was really just saying, "Gibbs calls all the shots except when my childish urge to spend a shit-ton of money on stuff I don't need just for the hell of it takes over ."

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

I disagree I think Rocky and Lemar will do fine, and I also think the COACHING STAFF thinks highly of McIntosh and Marshall. I believe this really just boiled down to Snyder wanting to make another huge FA splash, he just can't resist the urge can he? So since Snyder probably has no idea about football, he probably thought Briggs would come over here and do great with us since he was so great in Chicago and unfortunatly it doesn't work that way, or we would've one the Super Bowl the last five years.

Thats a stupid comment about Snyder which you have nothing to back up what you said. If Snyder was that big on this deal it would have been done but as the article said it not over with yet. Lets know what we are talking about before we bash our team, owner, coaches on something that we do not even know is true. If we find out he was behind the trade then bash all you want.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Thats a stupid comment about Snyder which you have nothing to back up what you said. If Snyder was that big on this deal it would have been done but as the article said it not over with yet. Lets know what we are talking about before we bash our team, owner, coaches on something that we do not even know is true. If we find out he was behind the trade then bash all you want.

Well at the meetings in Arizona the Danny did say to the media that the Skins were looking to trade for him. Obviously he wasn't against it. Whether or not it was his idea we will probably never know. But unfortunately Danny and our FO has done plenty over the past several years for us to bash.....

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Thats a stupid comment about Snyder which you have nothing to back up what you said. If Snyder was that big on this deal it would have been done but as the article said it not over with yet. Lets know what we are talking about before we bash our team, owner, coaches on something that we do not even know is true. If we find out he was behind the trade then bash all you want.

Snyder was behind the trade - this is how the whole thing got started when Briggs and Rosenthaul approached Snyder and Snyder said he would love to have briggs in a trade of first round picks.

Any bashing on Snyder i feel is well advised. What postive changes has he brought about since his ownership - ticket prices not going up this year (even though they went up a ridculess amount last year)?

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Thats a stupid comment about Snyder which you have nothing to back up what you said. If Snyder was that big on this deal it would have been done but as the article said it not over with yet. Lets know what we are talking about before we bash our team, owner, coaches on something that we do not even know is true. If we find out he was behind the trade then bash all you want.

I agree to a degree, but what Danny Boy wants, doesn't mean he will always get. What Snyder does know is it's his damn football team, that's a fact! I'm quit sure he know's more than your stating, get real.

Thinking Briggs could come to DC and make a impact, is also, a pretty damn good educated guess. I'm sure he would do just fine.

Futhermore, I or anyone at this point would just be guessing as to what the coaching staff really think of Rocky or Lemar?

The thought from my view point is the need to justify bringing in a high end player, espically a Linebacker, when I think or NEEDS should be focused on the D-line. Not spending alot of cash on one player, when we can trade DOWN get more picks/players for the cash!

[RMSkins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Thats a stupid comment about Snyder which you have nothing to back up what you said. If Snyder was that big on this deal it would have been done but as the article said it not over with yet. Lets know what we are talking about before we bash our team, owner, coaches on something that we do not even know is true. If we find out he was behind the trade then bash all you want.

You're joking right??? Snyder was behind this all the way, Cerrato and him were down at the owners meeting in Phoenix, and Rosenhaus approached Snyder about the trade and Snyder agreed. Maybe you're the one who needs to do the research before you make a stupid comment.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I really hope this is the end of it. I'd like to see them develop Rocky.

That being said, the fact that they were looking at Briggs really speaks volumes as to what they think about the 6th pick.

The Skins really want out of that pick. So much so that they were willing to trade it for a player that doesn't fill a glaring need.

I agree Matty, because while there are some players there that could help us along the DL, I'm not convinced there's anyone there they want to pay #6 money too. I think they're looking for a little more "Bang for the Buck".

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I really hope this is the end of it. I'd like to see them develop Rocky.

That being said, the fact that they were looking at Briggs really speaks volumes as to what they think about the 6th pick.

The Skins really want out of that pick. So much so that they were willing to trade it for a player that doesn't fill a glaring need.

I can see where they are coming from. IMO, Okoye is the one guy who is good enough to represent the 6th pick and not hurt our defense with a glaring weakness. Carriker is the other guy I would want, but doesn't represent the 6th pick.

I think that Gibbs is turned off by Okoye's age because of his preference for older players, but I also feel that his fears are unwarrented. Yeah, hes 19, but he also played 4 full seasons in college. That's some simply invaluable experience.

He's mature beyond his years, and he's the true once in a lifetime player in this draft. If I was GM of the Redskins, and I had the No. 1 overall pick instead of the 6th, and I was absolutely unable to trade out of it, I would take Okoye first overall.

That said, I could see why Gibbs might pass on him. And looking past him, the value of player available at No. 6 isnt very good for what we like to do.

So if we can trade down out of the 6th pick, I'd be all for that I guess, even if it costs us Okoye (since theres no guarentee we'd draft him anyway). But I'd be much more satisfied with extra picks than with a veteran like Briggs. This team is not short on veteran leadership. We need cheap, young guys to be able to bring along slowly that will be the heart and sould of this team three years down the road.

The best possible move would be selecting Okoye at 6, but there are a bunch of other good moves. Luckily, this Briggs talk is put to rest for now, so we can explore those other options.