AP "Gibbs doubts any draftee could start"

[freddyg12]

JLC pointed out Gibbs saying this in Skins insider today, but its still no news at all. They have to write something & fans like us are anxious for the draft & will read anything.

I agree w/Matty's take on it. I actually like the way Gibbs phrased it, he's basically setting the tone for camp. I've thought for a no. of years that we've lacked solid competition in camp for roster spots & starting jobs. That happens when you sign a lot of free agents, since it is often too costly to cut them. Gibbs will start a rookie, as will GW, they just want them to be as prepared in the scheme as the vets are.

On a side note, Okoye or any d-linemen I'd say has a greater chance of starting early on than Landry. Safety in GW's d seems to require a bit more tutoring.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

JLC pointed out Gibbs saying this in Skins insider today, but its still no news at all. They have to write something & fans like us are anxious for the draft & will read anything.

I agree w/Matty's take on it. I actually like the way Gibbs phrased it, he's basically setting the tone for camp. I've thought for a no. of years that we've lacked solid competition in camp for roster spots & starting jobs. That happens when you sign a lot of free agents, since it is often too costly to cut them. Gibbs will start a rookie, as will GW, they just want them to be as prepared in the scheme as the vets are.

On a side note, Okoye or any d-linemen I'd say has a greater chance of starting early on than Landry. Safety in GW's d seems to require a bit more tutoring.

So you think Okoye, who is 19 or 20, could walk right in and start over Goldston and Montgomery who have been here in the program for a year? I don't think so. He's going to need a year or two before we becomes a starter. I think someone like Carriker could start right away over Daniels.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So you think Okoye, who is 19 or 20, could walk right in and start over Goldston and Montgomery who have been here in the program for a year? I don't think so. He's going to need a year or two before we becomes a starter. I think someone like Carriker could start right away over Daniels.

Age aside, and yes that counts for something, they've both been well versed in the college ranks. I think they would be equally ready as rookies, but we'd be best off playing the best guy we have for the job, and the smart money says thats not the rookie, no matter how talented he is. Daniels is still servicable at the very least.

[dmek25]

to me it seems like coach Gibbs would be awesome to work for. never publicly bad mouthing anyone, and always saying the right things. this article is a non issue

[Longtimefan]

The writer of that article is mainly piggy-backing on the article in todays Wash.Post by JLC. In that article it clearly has Gibbs saying [quote] he does not see any players in this draft who would be automatic starters on the Redskins regardless of position [unquote] It's a statement that sends a very negative message to prospective draft selections, and makes their worth seem deminished. It's obvious Gibbs has a high opinion of his defensive personel that finished next to last in the NFL.

[RobH4413]

I really don't see any significance whatsoever in this article, or any of Joe Gibbs quotes.

Gibbs will play the best player based on how they perform.

There is no gray area here.

[Longtimefan]

If there is no one in this draft the FO feels is good enough to be a starter on this team, then for the #6 pick or it's equivalent we can expect a Rocky McIntosh clone (or two). This undoubtably explains the desire to trade down out of the #6 spot, not so much for quantity, but because in their estimation there's no one of quality worthy.

[MTK]

Cooley played right away as a rookie, Taylor didn't play right away but he didn't take long to break the starting lineup.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Washingtonpost.com

"Long term, it's, 'Can this player play for 10 years?' " Gibbs said. "And even though it may be crowded where he initially comes in at a position, if you feel like that long term he's going to be playing here for a long time and has chance to go to Pro Bowls. But I will say this, that doesn't mean he has to do it that first year. Sometimes it's a learning process and sometimes he comes into a position where there's already a lot of talent there.

Gibbs said that he does not see any players in this draft who would be automatic starters on the Redskins, regardless of position, and that the club could still address some needs, such as along the defensive line, on the second day of the draft, citing linemen Kedric Golston and Anthony Montgomery, who were late-round selections last year.

Drafted player may start the first year, but there's no guarantee. Looking for a long-term solution, not the quick fix (ironic, I know). Day 1 of the draft is not the only place to address needs.

Seems pretty straight-forward to me

[MTK]

I guess it wouldn't be a Redskins offseason without some good old freaking out over every bit of info that comes out of Redskins Park, Pro Football Talk, ESPN, the milk man, and my brother's friend's sister's uncle who saw Chris Samuels eating at the Cheesecake Factory, etc.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I guess it wouldn't be a Redskins offseason without some good old freaking out over every bit of info that comes out of Redskins Park, Pro Football Talk, ESPN, the milk man, and my brother's friend's sister's uncle who saw Chris Samuels eating at the Cheesecake Factory, etc.

You know what's ironic? I used to see Chris Samuels eating at the Cheesecake Factory all the time (Friendship Heights, for those wondering)

[MonkFan4Life]

Since I read the paper today and read the quotes from yesterday I understood what Gibbs was saying. Basically, I'm not getting on my knees praying for anyone to come and save my team ! If we draft you, you aren't any more special than the guys who are already here.

Beautiful hateful rhetoric against the Skins by the author !

[SKINSnCANES]

Gibbs never starts rookies. Sean Taylor had what, 4 picks and 3 touchdowns in preseaon playing a qtr each game and he didnt start either. Its like he does it on principle to prove a point. It annoys me personally. Like last year, why wasnt McIntosh in earlier in the year?

[skinsfan69]

Also in this press conference Dan S. mentioned that Brandon Lloyd is working out real hard in Arizona and he was in the best shpae of his life. He said that he was proud of LLoyd.

[themightyjoegibbs]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Also in this press conference Dan S. mentioned that Brandon Lloyd is working out real hard in Arizona and he was in the best shpae of his life. He said that he was proud of LLoyd.

Danny is about as honest and trustworthy as the Devil.....

In place of big FA signings and false hope in that regards it has been substituted for useless jargon about the most useless current player. If Archulleta was still here we would here more about how he trains lifting broken cars and his unusual work out regimine. So really what we are hearing is simply a business ploy to retain our interest, keeping potential money in the org. Probably b/c he got a deal on B.Lloyd jerseys and needs to flip them before we dump him next year. Trust me this is a business and he runs it better than any franchise in the world. Every year is a new song and dance.

I don't like hearing a business man talk about the players. Has Danny ever earned faith. Why should we care if he made the owner proud.

Can we impeach our owner?? Doesn't 6 flags need his dedication??