Cerrato, Most Improved...

[budw38]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I really don't think our OL is that bad off.

I'm still amazed how we've lost one starter and everyone thinks the sky is falling.

I agree , the sky has not fallen . On the other side , we have been horrible the last three years in short yardage , and scoring TD's . With 1 more year in the new Offence , maybe that will change ? If the Inj's to Samuals / Portis and Campbell slow them through the season , I can't see us all of a sudden getting in the endzone . I hope the D gets back to it's 05 form ,,,, we may need them to win a few games for us .

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I really don't think our OL is that bad off.

I'm still amazed how we've lost one starter and everyone thinks the sky is falling.

The sky is definately not falling. The team has had an excellent line the past few years and it will continue to be a very good line for a few years.

But, there is some cause for anxiety, even if it eventually proves to be unfounded. Samuels is suffering from an injury that nagged him for awhile a few years back. The left guard position is shaky at best. Finally, Jansen looks less than stellar. Buges will likely get things together, but I'm keeping my eye on the unit.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

That's life in the NFL, show me one NFL team that has solid depth across the board with no weaknesses. It's nearly impossible to shore up every position each year.

I really think people are really overreacting about the offensive line.

I'll show you two:

New England
San Diego

They are strong and deep, particurlarly on defense where is matters most. Pats 2007 1st round draft pick isn't even going to start this year, but he will play a ton. They are 3 deep in the DL.
The Chargers have former 5th and 6th round picks starting and playing very well on the offensive line. which has been the Redskins major weakness, we do not pick well in The late rounds. At least not until this year. HB Blades looks like a keeper.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I'll show you two:

New England
San Diego

They are strong and deep, particurlarly on defense where is matters most. Pats 2007 1st round draft pick isn't even going to start this year, but he will play a ton. They are 3 deep in the DL.
The Chargers have former 5th and 6th round picks starting and playing very well on the offensive line. which has been the Redskins major weakness, we do not pick well in The late rounds. At least not until this year. HB Blades looks like a keeper.

The Patriots aren't exactly stacked at RB. Maroney is nice but has durability concerns. Not having Samuel in there at CB is a significant loss for them. Behind Brady they have a former 7th round draft pick and a 95 year old in Testaverde.

San Diego has some question marks at WR with unproven guys like Vincent Jackson and a rookie in Craig Davis. I know it doesn't matter much since LT and Gates will catch a ton, but still, they certainly don't scare anyone with their wideouts. Their safeties are a big question mark too.

Nobody in the league has solid depth at every position.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I'll show you two:

New England
San Diego

They are strong and deep, particurlarly on defense where is matters most. Pats 2007 1st round draft pick isn't even going to start this year, but he will play a ton. They are 3 deep in the DL.
The Chargers have former 5th and 6th round picks starting and playing very well on the offensive line. which has been the Redskins major weakness, we do not pick well in The late rounds. At least not until this year. HB Blades looks like a keeper.

It's funny how when the Redskins don't start a top draft pick it's "OMG, WTF is wrong with this team?! We're so stupid that we don't even start our draft picks!"

But when the Patriots don't it's "Wow, what geniuses. Drafting a player and letting him develop before throwing him to the wolves"

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's funny how when the Redskins don't start a top draft pick it's "OMG, WTF is wrong with this team?! We're so stupid that we don't even start our draft picks!"

But when the Patriots don't it's "Wow, what geniuses. Drafting a player and letting him develop before throwing him to the wolves"

That's the perception of success working at it's best though. If the Pats do it, it's brilliant. If the Skins bring in a Randy Moss they overpaid and Snyder is desperate.

I tell you what, you look at the Patriots roster and they easily have one of the oldest teams in the NFL right now. I think they'll be competive this year, but not dominant.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

That's life in the NFL, show me one NFL team that has solid depth across the board with no weaknesses. It's nearly impossible to shore up every position each year.

I really think people are really overreacting about the offensive line.

I don't get that argument either. "If we had great depth across the board." There's no such thing in the NFL these days.

I concede we should better utilize our draft picks, but you can't have a great backup at every position.

As for people saying we have an undrafted FA in Heyer who is starting....I've got two words for them: Joe Jacoby

[Bstanley]

Cerrato does allot more then you guys think he does nice guy to. Ive talked to the him many times he knows what hes doing.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Bstanley

Cerrato does allot more then you guys think he does nice guy to. Ive talked to the him many times he knows what hes doing.

Say what?

[Bstanley]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Say what?

Ummm yes I know the guy I own a business we do business together.

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by Bstanley

Cerrato does allot more then you guys think he does nice guy to. Ive talked to the him many times he knows what hes doing.

Yeah, I hear he stays at a Holiday Inn Express every year before the draft....
As they say, "the proof is in da puddin"

[sandman89]

I like Cerrato, Hes a good Draft scouter and another thing is i like the picks we got this year but was a QB necessary?.I think if it was like that we should have drafted a Tall WR or something lol.

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by sandman89

I like Cerrato, Hes a good Draft scouter and another thing is i like the picks we got this year but was a QB necessary?.I think if it was like that we should have drafted a Tall WR or something lol.

Im curious as to why you think Cerrato is a "good Draft scouter." Please elaborate, cause I think he's shit.

[sandman89]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

Im curious as to why you think Cerrato is a "good Draft scouter." Please elaborate, cause I think he's shit.

I mean look at the guys we got.

Rocky Mcintosh
Chris Samuels
Jon Jansen
Jason Campbell
LaVar Arrington
Kendric Goldston
Fred Smoot
Sean Taylor
LaRon Landry
Chris Cooley
Mike Sellers
Lemar Marshall
Carlos Rogers(Who is looking to look how hes suppose to.)
Derrick Dockery
Trent Green
Betts
Cartwright
Gardner
Antonio Peirce


Only thing i see what he did wrong was not drafting a DE for the pat 6- years.

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by sandman89

I mean look at the guys we got.

Rocky Mcintosh
Chris Samuels
Jon Jansen
Jason Campbell
LaVar Arrington
Kendric Goldston
Fred Smoot
Sean Taylor
LaRon Landry
Chris Cooley
Mike Sellers
Lemar Marshall
Carlos Rogers(Who is looking to look how hes suppose to.)
Derrick Dockery
Trent Green
Betts
Cartwright
Gardner
Antonio Peirce


Only thing i see what he did wrong was not drafting a DE for the pat 6- years.

Having hard time keeping sarcasm down (gasp), getting the best of me...(gasp)......

OK, first let's start with the obvious. Vinny wasn't even here fore the Trent Green years. Next lets take the total busts out, that would be Gardner, even though he was taken in the 1st round, and many, many people argue that LaVar was a bust. Next, lets take out players who have done NOTHING to make any sort of list. That would be Golston. While he shows promise, that's all he's shown. Also, in that same breath is Carlos "hands of stone" Rogers, Jason Campbell, and Rocky. These guys might show promise, but that is truly all they have shown us. If you want to evaluate a personnel guy, one of the key elements is how he drafts after the first 3 rounds. First Round picks are SUPPOSED TO MAKE THE TEAM! Next, how has he done in free agency. For every single one of the UFA on your list I can name much much bigger FA busts signed by Vinny and Company. Off the top of my head: Bruce Smith, Deion Sanders, Mark Carrier, Adam Archuletta, Brandon Lloyd.