Classless Coach Belichick

[dgack]

Sit Jason Campbell down, and start... who?

You think Brunell would have survived being attacked by Mike Vrabel all day long? I can pretty much guarantee you it would have been 7+ sacks rather than 3.

[jsarno]

I belicheat being classless a surprise to anyone?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by troy

belicheck is a a$$hole with no class, and neither does his team. but my question is...is jason cambell the future of this team? i say no. we have have the best recieving core in football...santana moss, randel el. and none of them have scored a touchdown. portis and betts in the backfield. our defence speaks for itself. a good special teams. a hall of fame coach with 3 super bowl titles. i say it's time to sit cambell down. and send al saunders and his 700 page playbook back to kansas city!!! but that is just my opinion.

Lay off the sauce dude, seriously

[Rock Your Face]

Not to get off-topic here, but the best wide receiving corps in the NFL was wearing blue in Foxboro on Sunday.

The thing that really galls me about the Pats running up the score on teams (not just today, but all season) is that they seem to be doing it b/c they are mad that people caught them cheating. As if it is somehow not their fault that they were in fact doing the cheating and the people who were upset about it are the ones at fault. Is there some validity to the "it's pro football, take it like a man" line of reasoning? Yes, I think there is. At the same time, there is such a thing as class, and going for it on 4th down in the second half of a blow out win does not exhibit any of it.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by troy

belicheck is a a$$hole with no class, and neither does his team. but my question is...is jason cambell the future of this team? i say no. we have have the best recieving core in football...santana moss, randel el. and none of them have scored a touchdown. portis and betts in the backfield. our defence speaks for itself. a good special teams. a hall of fame coach with 3 super bowl titles. i say it's time to sit cambell down. and send al saunders and his 700 page playbook back to kansas city!!! but that is just my opinion.

So our future is with the 37 year old Brunell????? Or the soon to be 36 year old Collins?????
I'm with Matty on this one (odd I know)...how much have you had to drink?

[SanFranSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by Dlyne8r

I know, I should wait until 24-hrs. before I post. But, my emotions have the best of me at this moment. What a classless act Bill Belichick is. O.k., we're down 38 to zip late in the 2nd half and this fuck is throwing deep routes and anything else that may put more points on the board! What did we do to piss him off already?? Granted, the Pats out played us, out coached us, out scored us. Give them credit for that. They are an awesome force. But, when they had us beat, and beat bad, what did they do? They kept pouring it on. Enough! We're done. We're toast. Raise the freakin' white flag! I have never been a proponent of dirty play, but after it became apparent that Belichick was going to run up the score on the 'Skins, I would have sent the house on Brady on every single play. Yep, damn the torpedos. Even if it had caused a personal foul each and every blitz, if I were Gibbs and/or Greg Williams, I'd have pummeled Brady for Belichick's transgression. Buried his ass in the turf. Brady seemed so smug on the sidelines anyway. I only watched the end of the game to see what Gibbs' reaction would be when he met Belichick to shake hands. I was hoping for something similar to a Chuck Noll / Jerry Glanville interaction. Back in the day, Noll at least had the balls to get in Glanville's grille and let him know how he didn't appreciate how "Glandville" ran up the score on the Steelers that day. I have yet to see, or hear, any response from Gibbs after this embarrassing loss, but after the clock ran out, the camera was following Gibbs and it appeared that he simply avoided Belichick and ran off the field. Someone please tell me that I missed something and that Gibbs addressed this issue and stepped up for the team. Because if he didn't, I've lost a great amount of respect for him, and I love the guy. I had great respect for the Pats, and even Belichick, until today. I now hope they go down in a very very painful way.

I was seething when I saw BB do this, but after reading the posts and reflecting on it, I'm not sure what to think. If he wanted to risk Brady and his starting WRs out there, he had a right to. In college football, you have to run up the score for the BCS. For the Pats, they've already won their division, but that doesn't mean they cant screw with the Colts' brains before next week's mega-matchup. We blew this game on the first drive when we punted, before all of the turnovers started. I don't blame our defense for the loss, the Pats did the same thing to every team this year. So I say BB did what he had to do, to get negative press and some more motivation before next week's game. We need to beat the J-E-T-S next week and hopefully classy Dungy will put him in his place. Gibbs will always be classier than Belichek, but that doesn't mean BB isn't a great coach, or a very sick puppy to say the least. Go skins.

[MTK]

You don't sit Campbell after 14 career starts.

That's just DUMB.

Man, the overall IQ around here really drops after a loss, doesn't it? People seem particularly retarded tonight.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Rock Your Face

Not to get off-topic here, but the best wide receiving corps in the NFL was wearing blue in Foxboro on Sunday.

The thing that really galls me about the Pats running up the score on teams (not just today, but all season) is that they seem to be doing it b/c they are mad that people caught them cheating. As if it is somehow not their fault that they were in fact doing the cheating and the people who were upset about it are the ones at fault. Is there some validity to the "it's pro football, take it like a man" line of reasoning? Yes, I think there is. At the same time, there is such a thing as class, and going for it on 4th down in the second half of a blow out win does not exhibit any of it.

I don't think they are running up the score cause they are pissed or anything, they run it up cause they are executing very well. They are just damn good...possibly one of the best teams ever. It's sad, and I hate to say it, but it's true.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SanFranSkinsFan

I was seething when I saw BB do this, but after reading the posts and reflecting on it, I'm not sure what to think. If he wanted to risk Brady and his starting WRs out there, he had a right to. In college football, you have to run up the score for the BCS. For the Pats, they've already won their division, but that doesn't mean they cant screw with the Colts' brains before next week's mega-matchup. We blew this game on the first drive when we punted, before all of the turnovers started. I don't blame our defense for the loss, the Pats did the same thing to every team this year. So I say BB did what he had to do, to get negative press and some more motivation before next week's game. We need to beat the J-E-T-S next week and hopefully classy Dungy will put him in his place. Gibbs will always be classier than Belichek, but that doesn't mean BB isn't a great coach, or a very sick puppy to say the least. Go skins.

I would love to see one of his key players go down with an injury when they're in the middle of running up a score. Maybe then we would see Belichick without that smug F'ing look on his face in the post game presser.

What did you want us to do, kick a FG?

What an a-hole.

[dgack]

"they" run whatever Ol' Sweats says they run. So it's more a question of whether HE is trying to send a message. And based on the eternally constipated look that guy always has, I think it honestly, truly might be that he's trying to send a message to anybody watching.

Of course it is his right to do what he's doing. I think it's his right to tell the American people, "up yours, I don't care what you think of me, because I'm a winner".

He just better hope he never hits a losing streak with that kind of attitude. The Greeks had a word for it. They called it hubris.

[Dlyne8r]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Gibbs and Belichick shook hands following the game, and publicly he took the high road. But, I'm sure he had another stance alltogether behind closed doors to his players

Apparently Godfrey had some things to say about Belichick following the game though

To the contrary, the talking heads on the NFLN just stated that Gibbs did not meet Belichick on the field to shake hands and they also said that Gibbs was "alright with that." Gibbs is a revered coach for all the right reasons. He always takes the high road and I love that about him. But, after just getting your ass handed to you in the 4th worst loss in Redskins history by a butt head that could have pulled the reigns in a little bit, I believe it would have motivated his team to give Belichick a piece of his mind. But, Gibbs chose otherwise and I wish he'd spoken up.

[troy]

cambell is not the only qb we have. our offence has not been the same since saunders was hired as the offencive cordinator and jason cambell started. hell if were gonna keep saunders then start collins. at least he knows his system better.

[SanFranSkinsFan]

Matty-

Thanks for all your hard work on the blog. Yeah the way the Pats feed on negative motivation is just sick, just like playing Brady then. Brady is kind of scary though, I'd like to see JC have some more killer instinct (Rypien and even Joe Theisman had that). That fake spike touchdown to Randy Moss was a really nice play, something Gibbs wouldn't really ever try.

What happened to the the reverses and trick plays we ran in the 80s and 90s with so much success? Why couldn't we put together some plays like we did on that first drive (short passes, screens, Cooley crossing routes). We got flat outplayed today, but Belichek deserves credit for deflecting attention from his team, AGAIN, going into that matchup next week. Let's stay positive, and focus on the Jets, who we can stomp (along with BB disciple Man-Genie).

JON

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I would love to see one of his key players go down with an injury when they're in the middle of running up a score. Maybe then we would see Belichick without that smug F'ing look on his face in the post game presser.

What did you want us to do, kick a FG?

What an a-hole.

[Hijinx]

In regards to the original question: I am of two minds about it. If the Skins players wanted the Pats to stop scoring they should have done something about it. Plus some crazy comebacks are possible in football. I happen to have been at the 1993 Bills- Oilers game where they came back from more than 30 down.

However Billichick should know that this pisses off players and may come back to haunt him. Also when players get real frustrated they tend to so dumb things. What if one of the Skins D took a cheap shot at Brady or one of their other "skill" players. Personally I wouldn't condone that sort of thing but I could see it happening. Plus I am going to pray for a day in the future where we run it up every bit as hard on them.

[Daseal]

Get over it. People on both sides get a pay check, and the Redskins didn't earn theirs today. It's not Bellichek's job to keep the Pats from scoring, it's ours. If you're embarrassed, you should be -- but suck it up. These guys can go home and cry themselves to sleep on their beds of money if they like, but don't tell another team to not run up the score. Hell, when they're running for 8 yards a pop right up the gut, we deserve it.