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Old 12-01-2008, 11:42 PM   #16
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Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?

Aside from Gross and Haynesworth, both of whom will be very pricey, there aren't any good linemen who will be available this offseason via free agency. We could really use a guy like Haynesworth though. We desperately need a pocket collapsing DT.
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:48 PM   #17
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Aside from Gross and Haynesworth, both of whom will be very pricey, there aren't any good linemen who will be available this offseason via free agency. We could really use a guy like Haynesworth though. We desperately need a pocket collapsing DT.
Ditto. Prior to this season we kept hearing about the situation @ DE, but between Evans and Carter we've got two above average guys - one who can stop the run very well and the other who can pressure the QB when the other guys on the DL are doing their jobs. DT is the real need. Very frustrating also that Anthony hasn't developed into more. Williams always said he could be an elite DT and by the show of force he puts on every so often I want to believe it. Still... he's not dominating out there.
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:50 PM   #18
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Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?

Let me revise my previous statement. We don't desperately need a pocket collapsing DT, but if we got one, we'd be absolutely dominant on defense.
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:51 PM   #19
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Tank and Haynesworth. What the heck ....find a way to free up money and go for broke. Also pick on someone via draft for the long haul.
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:55 PM   #20
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Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?

Another thing I don't understand ...If Taylor is not getting the job done why are we not utilizing James more or Wilson more?

The problem Zorn had to face with Jansen was he is good in the run and terrible in the pass protection. Heyer is good in pass protection and terrible in the run. So pick your poison. If your whole line is better at running the ball then pass protection then run is your staple so we see Jansen. Besides one man does not make pass protection. Sticking Heyer in would only plug one hole we have on pass protection.
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:07 AM   #21
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Another thing I don't understand ...If Taylor is not getting the job done why are we not utilizing James more or Wilson more?

The problem Zorn had to face with Jansen was he is good in the run and terrible in the pass protection. Heyer is good in pass protection and terrible in the run. So pick your poison. If your whole line is better at running the ball then pass protection then run is your staple so we see Jansen. Besides one man does not make pass protection. Sticking Heyer in would only plug one hole we have on pass protection.
I think it's a safe assumption the coaching staff doesn't like something they see in Heyer or else he'd be starting. You say it's his run-blocking and certainly he was poor at that but my guess is there's more to the story. For one thing, we're not running to the right very often anyway, so Jansen's moderate advantage isn't really playing a factor. Again I just think Heyer isn't seen as a starter.
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:27 AM   #22
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Hanesworth..........PLEASE DAN BREAK THE BANK ON THIS MONSTER, he will be worth it......and keep D-Hall, say goodby to Springs and Smoot, and we need on elite WR, just one to go with Santana, and we should be a top 5 Team and a Good OL in the Draft.....
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:33 AM   #23
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Hanesworth..........PLEASE DAN BREAK THE BANK ON THIS MONSTER, he will be worth it......and keep D-Hall, say goodby to Springs and Smoot, and we need on elite WR, just one to go with Santana, and we should be a top 5 Team and a Good OL in the Draft.....
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:47 AM   #24
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Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?

Haynesworth is one of the few guys I would say would be worth whatever we pay him.
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:39 AM   #25
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Haynesworth is one of the few guys I would say would be worth whatever we pay him.
I agree we need a dominent DT to go along with Carter and Evans. Get rid of M. Washington, Re sign D Hall and draft that linebacker from USC.
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Old 12-02-2008, 09:50 AM   #26
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Andre Smith is a Jr offensive tackle at Alabama. If he declares for the draft, he will be a prize selection for someone.


Michael Oher is a Sr. offensive tackle at Ole Miss. He is an outstanding tackle of the "Jonathon Ogden" variety.


Find a way to get one of these dudes...
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:47 PM   #27
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Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?

It's depressing me to talk about the skins slide so let's talk a little about the future.

Haynesworth is tops in the NFL at his position. He's going to get a record deal. This is one time where I'd be pretty happy if we spent some bucks. He's a difference maker. If it won't hinder us in the future, i'd say go for it.
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:09 PM   #28
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Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?

I keep thinking that our line problem on defense is not personel. I think it is bad luck, coaching or scheme. I think that the Oline is a different story, they need players desperately. We need a right tackle, bad. I would like to see the team get rid of some players that have not produced. Like Springs, Griffin, Jansen, Washington, and Randel El. I think they hinder us for one reason or another, such as finacialy(Jansen, Washington, Griffin, Randel El, and Springs), always injured(Jansen, Washington, Griffin, and Springs), and not worth the money we pay them and always underperforming when healthy(Jansen, Washington, Griffin, and Randel El).
I would also like to see them find a way to sign Dre Moore of the Tampa Bay practice Squad. He is huge, had alot of sacks and had one of the best combines of any DT last year. Tampa Bay has alot of talent on the Dline and could not find room for him, this year.
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:48 PM   #29
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Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?

BL is that we will need to spend some of our highest draft picks and some FA dollars to improve both our OL and DL. We need talent, speed and youth.

Both of our lines are getting old, which causes the deterioration we see later in the season.

Last season Vinny went for the flash with 2 WR and a TE. Now we need to go for the trenches and hope the WR we picked this season start to pan out.
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Old 12-02-2008, 06:49 PM   #30
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Re: Any good free agent O-lineman or D-lineman available for next season?

The quick answer is no. Good O and D lineman don't become available until they are no longer good, generally.
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