Skins sell ticket straight to scalpers

[diehard]

Originally Posted by DCtoAZ

between EBAY and STUBHUB .. isn't everything scalped these days

My thoughts, exactly.

[Clark84]

This really isn't a surprise to me, hell I figured it was standard practice.

[souperbad]

From what I understand. People sign a 10 year contract with the Redskins for club level seats and the yearly prices just keeps going up 25% each year and there is little they can do because they signed a contract. So, you start out with a contract for $10,000 a year for some seats and after a couple of years you are paying $25,000.

The whole way the Redskins sell tickets is quite a mystery and I am surprised there is not a whole section or special forum on this website helping fans navigate this enigma.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Lotus

The article is not about the Redskins organization engaging in an illegal practice. It is about workers in the ticket office who make some extra cash for themselves by selling tickets to brokers rather than to the people on the ticket waiting list. The Redskins organization as a whole wants the tickets to go to those on the waiting list but apparently some unscrupulous folks in the ticket office have subverted the ideal scenario. So when we read that these individuals have been "disciplined," it is fair to guess that this means "fired."

Or the Redskins & their Ticket Operations department got caught and are now 'blaming' a handful of rogue tickets sales people (fall guys).

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Or the Redskins & their Ticket Operations department got caught and are now 'blaming' a handful of rogue tickets sales people (fall guys).

Maybe. But I see no gain for the Redskins as an organization by ignoring the waiting list and selling to outlets. If the organization wanted more per ticket, it could simply raise the price. And in these rogue sales, the organization loses control over pricing and distribution, which would be quite foolish in terms of the interests of the organization. The whole scenario only makes sense if the problem really is rogue ticket sellers.

[souperbad]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Maybe. But I see no gain for the Redskins as an organization by ignoring the waiting list and selling to outlets. If the organization wanted more per ticket, it could simply raise the price. And in these rogue sales, the organization loses control over pricing and distribution, which would be quite foolish in terms of the interests of the organization. The whole scenario only makes sense if the problem really is rogue ticket sellers.

The gain is that they sell their club level seats. In these broker deals, the broker agrees to buy club level seats so they can buy regular seats as well. If they went thru the wait list.....then they could not sell the club level seats.

I wish they sold club level seats one game at a time. I would pay the extra money to see one game in club level....but I could not afford a ten year contract.

[freddyg12]

The post article points out some things that just add to the reasons I think fedex sucks overall. A few years ago Va. Tech's AD said during the expansion of Lane Stadium that they didn't want to make it "too big" because they wanted to keep demand high.

There's something to be said for that. with 91,000 seats & a mediocre team at best (since fedex opened) it's hard to keep demand up. Yet the Skins have been saying for years that it is & they have a waiting list, etc.

My dream scenario to happen within the next 10 years; the Skins make a deal w/DC to come back where they belong (RFK site?), build a stadium that seats about 70,000 & features some of the great things that RFK had. Ticket demand goes up again & the Skins are playing where they belong. Of course, we win a super bowl once we're back in dc!

[freddyg12]

btw, expect JJ & his cowpoke stadium to experience all of this in the coming years. The novelty of the new digs will wear off & he'll be trying to sell high end tickets to pay the financing on 1.2 bill.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

btw, expect JJ & his cowpoke stadium to experience all of this in the coming years. The novelty of the new digs will wear off & he'll be trying to sell high end tickets to pay the financing on 1.2 bill.

Are there any $29 admission fees at FedEx?

Because in the new stadium at Dallas you can get a "party pass" for 29 bucks. See the game, drink some brew for just under 30 dollars. Not too shabby.

[BrunellMVP?]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Are there any $29 admission fees at FedEx?

Because in the new stadium at Dallas you can get a "party pass" for 29 bucks. See the game, drink some brew for just under 30 dollars. Not too shabby.

Sure there are- you just need to buy two club level seats for the next 10 years. Should you opt out of that plan, try stub hub, I think that $30 package goes for $100.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Are there any $29 admission fees at FedEx?

Because in the new stadium at Dallas you can get a "party pass" for 29 bucks. See the game, drink some brew for just under 30 dollars. Not too shabby.

the $29 ticket is brilliant on one hand, but we'll see how people act in standing room only. It may be an industry trend setter. Either way it was smart for JJ to come up w/that.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing new cowboys stadium. In fact, I think its design & many of the unique features (not the jumbotron) will be copied throughout the league. It's just a matter of scale; once you have a stadium that big it changes the game experience & it also makes it more imperative that tickets are all sold.

JJ's business plan likely projects sell outs or close over the next x no. of years. If that doesn't happen, he'll have to find other sources of $ in ticket sales. He just financed 1.2 billion, they're going to have to make A LOT of financial decisions in the near future re: ticket prices & other services that will likely make the avg. fan unhappy. I think it's simply a fact of life for any team building a new stadium.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

JJ's business plan likely projects sell outs or close over the next x no. of years. If that doesn't happen, he'll have to find other sources of $ in ticket sales. He just financed 1.2 billion, they're going to have to make A LOT of financial decisions in the near future re: ticket prices & other services that will likely make the avg. fan unhappy. I think it's simply a fact of life for any team building a new stadium.

Income like College Games, World Soccer, concerts, All Star Games, and most assuredly a Super Bowl?

All of which are already on slate and scheduled.

[mcarey032]

This was not at all a shocking revelation. The Redskins have been doing this for years. I don't buy for one second that they had no knowledge of this practice. It is just like Watergate, follow the money. You will see at the top is Dan Snyder pulling the strings. What is funny about this whole incident is that it brings me back to a time when Snyder was attempting to buy the team and apparently the NFL Didn't want Snyder's partner Milstein buying the team because of how he ran the NY Rangers into the ground with all kinds of bad financing. Now fast forward ten years later and Dan is accepting money from car dealerships like Eastern Motors and selling tickets on the secondary market and suing the fans for non-payment of long term contracts during a recession.
Yeah Dan is probably near the bottom when it comes to team ownership and structure.

[CRedskinsRule]

Well, one thing JJ did that was "clever" was he made the technical capacity around 80000, but it can be expanded to 100000, so he does not need to really sell out 100000 seats, unless the event calls for it. Not quite sure of the mechanics of it.

[Trample the Elderly]

I get my tickets from Marion Barry at a discount.