Smoke Signals: The Mike Holmgren rumors get louder

[RedskinPete]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So football isn't important in Green Bay??? They've got some of the most educated football fans in the NFL. They live sleep eat and breath football up there. But I think Holmgren is what this team needs. Now if we could get him as our coach and get rid of Vinny then we're on our way!

What do you mean? Vinny did a great job with the 49ers! Now he is doing the same for the Redskins! Campbell has to go!

[jrsz24]

I think Holmgren is a great choice to get the skins back on track. Whether he takes them to the SuperBowl is questionable. I would just like to see a consistent team that is building toward something. Just reaching the playoffs a couple of years in a row is good enough for me.

[SFREDSKIN]

Holmgren was on Mike & Mike yesterday morning and mentioned that he was enjoying his 1st year off, but wanted to come back and coach next year. So, if Zorn gets canned he would be the perfect fit to take over, that is if he wants to come here.

[12thMan]

I don't think Gruden is the right fit here..and besides he's pretty much won with established teams who were "close". I'm not sure how close we are.

If they brought Holmgren in, I wouldn't mind seeing Zorn stay. But you're right Matty, it has to be one or the other with Holmgren. Not GM and coach.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I don't think Gruden is the right fit here..and besides he's pretty much won with established teams who were "close". I'm not sure how close we are.

If they brought Holmgren in, I wouldn't mind seeing Zorn stay. But you're right Matty, it has to be one or the other with Holmgren. Not GM and coach.

Can you think of a good reason why Holmgren would want to come here seeing the treatment Zorn is getting, except for the fact it will probably pay him well?

[SmootSmack]

Here's a good timeline of Holmgren's time as GM in Seattle

TIMELINE: HOLMGREN AS GM (1999-2002)

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Here's a good timeline of Holmgren's time as GM in Seattle

TIMELINE: HOLMGREN AS GM (1999-2002)

All I saw was this.

August 19, 2002 - Veteran QB Mark Rypien is signed after Dilfer suffers a knee injury.


Guy is money


However I guess that Holmgren is more proned to burnout right now at 61 then was when he was in his 50's. So like I said bring in Holmgren and get him a quality GM to help him run the team then get a restraining order against Daniel Snyder.

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'd gladly take Holmgren over Shanahan though if we're talking GMs.

I'm not worried that Holmgren is going to spend a 3rd round pick on a Maurice Clarett

Plus Shannahan never had the foresight to sign Mark Rypien.

[SmootSmack]

Yeah but what about serving as both GM and coach? His last three years in that dual role the Seahawks had two losing seasons and missed the playoffs all three years.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah but what about serving as both GM and coach? His last three years in that dual role the Seahawks had two losing seasons and missed the playoffs all three years.

Nowadays it's too much of a job for most people, just coaches alone spend so much time working, then you're talking evaluating even more tape, etc. The coach needs to bring in a personnel guy.

[SmootSmack]

I'd gladly take Holmgren over Shanahan though if we're talking GMs.

I'm not worried that Holmgren is going to spend a 3rd round pick on a Maurice Clarett

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'd gladly take Holmgren over Shanahan though if we're talking GMs.

I'm not worried that Holmgren is going to spend a 3rd round pick on a Maurice Clarett

Assuming Zorn finishes out the year here and walks away with a records between say 7-9 and 9-7, what about keeping Zorn but canning Cerrato (that felt good to write) and hiring Holmgren to replace him.

That way you end up with a HC and GM who are on a very similar wavelength in terms of how to set up and run the offense. Plus, I would assume that Zorn has a lot of respect for Holmgren so if the GM wanted to hand play calling duties over to someone else Zorn may not have a problem with it.

[CultBrennan59]

I look at it like this:
Shannahan should be our next head coach, because he's know for his great running schemes, which is what the redskins have been known for, for years. If he were to go to dallas, then we'd be screwed IMO, cause they have a great OL and Romo I think is a great bootleg QB.
Holmgren would be my next choice, but A) we already have a WC offense which doesn't suit us if you ask me. B) If he went to Dallas, I don't think they'd be that good, simply because I don't see Romo as a WC QB. They'd be much scarrier and deadlier with shanahan running the show down there than holmgren.
Gruden is just a worse version of Holmgren. So he'd be my next choice after the first two.

[dmvskinzfan08]

is Cowher out of the question. IF so why? What do you guys think we need the most. A Defensive or Offensive minded coach?

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

is Cowher out of the question. IF so why? What do you guys think we need the most. A defensive or Offensive inded coach?

He'll be out of question because he wants full control over the front office and Vinny and Dan want there words of advice over his. Plus we need an offensive minded coach, because or defense really isn't that much of a problem, our offense is the one that can't score in the redzone

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

He'll be out of question because he wants full control over the front office and Vinny and Dan want there words of advice over his. Plus we need an offensive minded coach, because or defense really isn't that much of a problem, our offense is the one that can't score in the redzone

Well both of our units are ranked 14th in the NFL.

I think both sides of the team are issues. teh defense definitely does not get a free pass.