NFL Network: Zorn likely to survive the season

[tryfuhl]

The guys Danny wants are waiting till the end of the season to come back.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

So here's something new, Steve Wyche of the NFL Network is reporting that Zorn will likely survive the regular season (NFL Videos: Wyche discusses Zorn's future) mostly because of a lack of suitable person in house to take over duties.

He also says Samuels likely out all season and opponents who have broken down tape say our offensive woes are largely attributable to a bad roster/scheme fit.

I wonder if the bye week would be too early for Snyder to tell Zorn he's not coming back in '10 regardless or if he'd wait until late/after the season to do so.

Wow Wyche said that? It isn't like a bunch of us guys in here haven't been saying that for the past several weeks. You have a system, you acquire guys that can play effectively in the system or can easily adapt to it. Zorn is trying to put square pegs into round holes. His entire WR corp is used(except for maybe Mitchell and the Pistol offense) was used to playing in a pro style verticle passing type offense in either the college ranks and with ARE and Moss, the pros. The depth is horrid on both sides of the ball. Like it or not if you want to see a consistent winner, it is going to take another 3-5 seasons. Hopefully 2010 is indeed a capless year and you can dump the trash and start anew.

[Hog1]

To me, that is the single most disappointing thing about JZ. Much of the GENIUS behind any genius coach is the ability to determine "what" you have and design/adapt the scheme to go with those skill sets. He does not appear to understand this.
Joe1 recognized this in his first season and made a legend out of evaluating the talent he had, exploiting their strengths and minimizing their faults.
THEN, as time (and the draft) allows.....fill in the gaps

[skinsfan_nn]

Zorn to survive.....I'll believe it when I see it!

Don't believe that for a second. Hell for that matter he's already DONE he just doesn't know it..yet.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

So here's something new, Steve Wyche of the NFL Network is reporting that Zorn will likely survive the regular season (NFL Videos: Wyche discusses Zorn's future) mostly because of a lack of suitable person in house to take over duties.

He also says Samuels likely out all season and opponents who have broken down tape say our offensive woes are largely attributable to a bad roster/scheme fit.

I wonder if the bye week would be too early for Snyder to tell Zorn he's not coming back in '10 regardless or if he'd wait until late/after the season to do so.

I wonder who's idea it was to switch to a WCO? This is just one more log on the fire Vinny pile...

[KI Skins Fan]

I believe that Jim Zorn is now a place holder for the big name WCO coach that Dan Snyder hopes to hire in 2010. If that is the case, then the Redskins are simply getting a head start on running the WCO.

So, looking at it from a twisted point of view, you see that it is actually an advantage that Zorn hasn't done very well as the HC because he has introduced the WCO to the players and he'll be out of the way for the hiring of the big name coach. Good job, Vinny!

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I believe that Jim Zorn is now a place holder for the big name WCO coach that Dan Snyder hopes to hire in 2010. If that is the case, then the Redskins are simply getting a head start on running the WCO.

So, looking at it from a twisted point of view, you see that it is actually an advantage that Zorn hasn't done very well as the HC because he has introduced the WCO to the players and he'll be out of the way for the hiring of the big name coach. Good job, Vinny!

Taking it a little far there...

If that's the case then you just told fans that they've rooted on the Skins for naught the last two years when they just had a dummy fill-in coach while they waited for the likes of Holmgren to become available.

I certianly wouldn't commend any front office for doing that. That is a gross mismanagment of resources and also a slap in the face for players like Portis and Moss who's ages can't afford the luxury of a two year mail-in by the franchise.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Taking it a little far there...

If that's the case then you just told fans that they've rooted on the Skins for naught the last two years when they just had a dummy fill-in coach while they waited for the likes of Holmgren to become available.

I certianly wouldn't commend any front office for doing that. That is a gross mismanagment of resources and also a slap in the face for players like Portis and Moss who's ages can't afford the luxury of a two year mail-in by the franchise.

I didn't make myself clear enough. I don't think that Zorn was hired to be a placeholder but I do think that he has become one now that things have gone downhill.

The "Good job, Vinny!" part was sarcasm.

[MTK]

Might as well ride him out for the year. Firing a guy mid-season rarely gets any results, and if you're looking to bring someone else in after the season anyway, really what's the point? No big name guys are going to come in mid-season.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Might as well ride him out for the year. Firing a guy mid-season rarely gets any results, and if you're looking to bring someone else in after the season anyway, really what's the point? No big name guys are going to come in mid-season.

But it would be a good time to bring in a Parcells type so he could take the rest of the season to evaluate talent.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

But it would be a good time to bring in a Parcells type so he could take the rest of the season to evaluate talent.

I can easily envision Snyder informing Zorn he won't be back in early December so he can start the search early without firing him in season.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I can easily envision Snyder informing Zorn he won't be back in early December so he can start the search early without firing him in season.

Unless he searches for a GM i dont think it will matter.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

Unless he searches for a GM i dont think it will matter.

Well, I'm guessing he'd be exploring a Gruden/Allen package or starting conversations with Mike & Mike about a President/Coach role.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

So here's something new, Steve Wyche of the NFL Network is reporting that Zorn will likely survive the regular season (NFL Videos: Wyche discusses Zorn's future) mostly because of a lack of suitable person in house to take over duties.

He also says Samuels likely out all season and opponents who have broken down tape say our offensive woes are largely attributable to a bad roster/scheme fit.

I wonder if the bye week would be too early for Snyder to tell Zorn he's not coming back in '10 regardless or if he'd wait until late/after the season to do so.

While many have agreed it's time for Zorn to go, I've never thought replacing him at this particular time would have any positive affect. No coach can come in at this point and make a difference. This is what the players have been calling for so they don't have to continue answering questions about the coach for the next eleven games.

[wolfeskins]

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