Sherman Lewis, what was his effect

tryfuhl · 10-28-2009, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I don't think it's a Hixon issue at all. I think it's a JC issue when it comes to trying to get the ball down the field to the receivers.

The few rare instances where he does have time, he either rushes through his reads or he doesn't attempt a pass unless a guy is wide freaking open. Who many times do we see him pull the ball back down and dump it off? The MNF crew noted this several times.

Yep, watch the plays on SportsCenter or in other games.. the good qb's put it where it needs to be and the WR makes the catch, that DeSean Jackson catch is the exception, not the rule.. but then Campbell check down and put it right on a perfectly covered guy because he doesn't know what to do, like on that batted ball/INT.. he was going moss who had a guy closing in on him and if I recall correctly.. a guy on his inside, of a slant...

Good seeing other people saying that he won't let the receiver make the catch

sportscurmudgeon · 10-27-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Play calling wasn't an issue and honestly I didn't see where it impacted things positively or negatively. The main issue is, and has been all year with the execution side of things.

You can call plays directly from a Bill Walsh playbook but it's not going to matter if the players don't go out and do their jobs.

Amen to that... That isn't Jerry Rice and John Taylor out there at WR. That isn't Dwight Clark at TE. That isn't an OL made up of 5 competent NFL players. And that is not Joe Montana/Steve Young under center. As Gruden and Jaws kept pointing out last night, it's the execution - - stupid.

Chico23231 · 10-27-2009, 09:29 AM

Playcalling I thought was a little better, but JC, Heyer, Rabach, ARE, Montgomery, Williams are all horrible. I thought JC's play was maybe the sh*test I have ever seen him. HE IS NOT IMPROVING. The execution was garbage. I just cant stand ARE, put him on the sh*t FA list under DS's reign of terror. That was another waste of F-ing money. God how bad can this FO be? Its the f*cking horrible.

MdBluefinCrab · 10-27-2009, 09:34 AM

Decent play calling, lousy o-line, lousy QB and no sense of urgency with this team.
I'm sure Snyder will fix things during the bye week and we'll be on the road to the division title, the playoffs, etc.
Yeah, Snyder the genius does it again.

nyredskinsfan · 10-27-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MdBluefinCrab

Decent play calling, lousy o-line, lousy QB and no sense of urgency with this team.
I'm sure Snyder will fix things during the bye week and we'll be on the road to the division title, the playoffs, etc.
Yeah, Snyder the genius does it again.

Season is over. Nothing left to save worth killing yourself or getting hurt. These guys rolled over weeks ago and still are rolling. Sense of Urgency, I love that phrase. You won't see it with these guys.

skinsguy · 10-27-2009, 09:38 AM

I thought the play calling was good. The execution is horrible! And honestly, if the execution had been there all year 'round, Zorn would probably still be calling plays.

BleedBurgundy · 10-27-2009, 09:52 AM

Play calling was not an issue. Players need to play and our main guys are not that good. I'm starting to really turn on Portis. And JC... for god's sake man... just sit down.

rbanerjee23 · 10-27-2009, 10:01 AM

JC wasn't great but he wasn't garbage, the tackles are so bad that if you put Peyton Manning in there he would have had only a marginally better game...I don't think you can put the blame on JC, last year when the OL was decent he had a decent first half, this is just a continuation of the second half of last season when the OL was just god awful

SmootSmack · 10-27-2009, 10:08 AM

Nice use of the word effect, CRed

I thought the playcalling was fine for the most part. There was one play, which in the grand scheme was minor, but that I thought could have and should have been called differently.

17-0 Eagles early in the 2nd quarter and Rock has a great return to our own 40 yard line. Eagles get a penalty and that tacks on another 15 yards. So now we're in Eagles territory. Just had a great return and some nice yards off a penalty added on. I would have gone play action deep pass right there, instead of 2 yards up the middle by Portis. I understand not wanting to deviate from a game plan but we had a bit of a momentum in that instant and I think we should have attacked.

Otherwise, I thought Lewis did just fine.

tryfuhl · 10-27-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Nice use of the word effect, CRed

I thought the playcalling was fine for the most part. There was one play, which in the grand scheme was minor, but that I thought could have and should have been called differently.

17-0 Eagles early in the 2nd quarter and Rock has a great return to our own 40 yard line. Eagles get a penalty and that tacks on another 15 yards. So now we're in Eagles territory. Just had a great return and some nice yards off a penalty added on. I would have gone play action deep pass right there, instead of 2 yards up the middle by Portis. I understand not wanting to deviate from a game plan but we had a bit of a momentum in that instant and I think we should have attacked.

Otherwise, I thought Lewis did just fine.

Yep, I remember right at that point going "Okay, take a shot at it, right where you want to have this opportunity"

Brikks · 10-27-2009, 10:18 AM

I wasn't able to watch the entire game, but seeing Davis and Thomas involved in the offense is enough for me to endorse Sherm.

Anyone else feel like JC could have been a different player if he had a different offensive line (even under Gibbs I recall our O-line not being that great in pass pro).

Kind of like how I always felt about Ramsey. At first he had courage, stood strong in the pocket and delivered his passes while taking hits. But he just got beat up after a while behind Spurrier's whacky schemes and got shell shocked.

I really think that taking so many hits and having no confidence in the offensive line will pretty much ruin a young QB and his development.

Trample the Elderly · 10-27-2009, 10:20 AM

They actually looked more aggressive to me. I think if a lot of these so-called "stars" were benched we'd have a better chance of winning.

Monkeydad · 10-27-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Brikks

I wasn't able to watch the entire game, but seeing Davis and Thomas involved in the offense is enough for me to endorse Sherm.

Anyone else feel like JC could have been a different player if he had a different offensive line (even under Gibbs I recall our O-line not being that great in pass pro).

Kind of like how I always felt about Ramsey. At first he had courage, stood strong in the pocket and delivered his passes while taking hits. But he just got beat up after a while behind Spurrier's whacky schemes and got shell shocked.

I really think that taking so many hits and having no confidence in the offensive line will pretty much ruin a young QB and his development.

You missed a great second half for us on both sides of the ball, except for Rabach costing us a TD.

Redskin Warrior · 10-27-2009, 10:21 AM

Also this is what Lewis 2nd or 3rd week dealing with this team so to score as many points as Zorn did in his first week as play caller is promising. We should have had 20 points and kicked that field goal instead of letting Rabach dry hump the football on 4th down.

Longtimefan · 10-27-2009, 10:35 AM

I was basically interested in seeing what affect his play calling was going to have on the overall flow of the game. For the most part it would seem all went over without many glitches. Play calling would apear to be an non issue, execution of the plays called is the real concern.

10-27-2009, 09:29 AM	#3
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,017	Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect Playcalling I thought was a little better, but JC, Heyer, Rabach, ARE, Montgomery, Williams are all horrible. I thought JC's play was maybe the shtest I have ever seen him. HE IS NOT IMPROVING. The execution was garbage. I just cant stand ARE, put him on the sht FA list under DS's reign of terror. That was another waste of F-ing money. God how bad can this FO be? Its the f*cking horrible.

10-27-2009, 09:34 AM	#4
MdBluefinCrab Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: White Plains, Maryland Age: 69 Posts: 56	Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect Decent play calling, lousy o-line, lousy QB and no sense of urgency with this team. I'm sure Snyder will fix things during the bye week and we'll be on the road to the division title, the playoffs, etc. Yeah, Snyder the genius does it again. __________________ Bring the Redskins back to Washington!

10-27-2009, 09:38 AM	#6
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect I thought the play calling was good. The execution is horrible! And honestly, if the execution had been there all year 'round, Zorn would probably still be calling plays. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

10-27-2009, 09:52 AM	#7
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect Play calling was not an issue. Players need to play and our main guys are not that good. I'm starting to really turn on Portis. And JC... for god's sake man... just sit down. __________________ "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine

10-27-2009, 10:01 AM	#8
rbanerjee23 The Starter Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,440	Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect JC wasn't great but he wasn't garbage, the tackles are so bad that if you put Peyton Manning in there he would have had only a marginally better game...I don't think you can put the blame on JC, last year when the OL was decent he had a decent first half, this is just a continuation of the second half of last season when the OL was just god awful __________________ "Tough times don't last but tough people do" -Mike Shanahan HTTR

10-27-2009, 10:08 AM	#9
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect Nice use of the word effect, CRed I thought the playcalling was fine for the most part. There was one play, which in the grand scheme was minor, but that I thought could have and should have been called differently. 17-0 Eagles early in the 2nd quarter and Rock has a great return to our own 40 yard line. Eagles get a penalty and that tacks on another 15 yards. So now we're in Eagles territory. Just had a great return and some nice yards off a penalty added on. I would have gone play action deep pass right there, instead of 2 yards up the middle by Portis. I understand not wanting to deviate from a game plan but we had a bit of a momentum in that instant and I think we should have attacked. Otherwise, I thought Lewis did just fine. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-27-2009, 10:18 AM	#11
Brikks Camp Scrub Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 24	Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect I wasn't able to watch the entire game, but seeing Davis and Thomas involved in the offense is enough for me to endorse Sherm. Anyone else feel like JC could have been a different player if he had a different offensive line (even under Gibbs I recall our O-line not being that great in pass pro). Kind of like how I always felt about Ramsey. At first he had courage, stood strong in the pocket and delivered his passes while taking hits. But he just got beat up after a while behind Spurrier's whacky schemes and got shell shocked. I really think that taking so many hits and having no confidence in the offensive line will pretty much ruin a young QB and his development.

10-27-2009, 10:20 AM	#12
Trample the Elderly Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Three Chopt Virginia Age: 47 Posts: 2,906	Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect They actually looked more aggressive to me. I think if a lot of these so-called "stars" were benched we'd have a better chance of winning. __________________ A funny thing happened on the way to the temple. The moneychangers bought the priesthood.

10-27-2009, 10:35 AM	#15
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect I was basically interested in seeing what affect his play calling was going to have on the overall flow of the game. For the most part it would seem all went over without many glitches. Play calling would apear to be an non issue, execution of the plays called is the real concern.

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