How will chris samuels's retirement affect our cap?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

I figured that teams would use this no cap time to drop salaries of unwanted players in case the cap returned.

It's unlikely the players will agree to put a cap back in place once it's gone.

[MTK]

If the cap goes away it's probably not coming back any time soon, and not in it's current form.

[Redskins8588]

Schneed what happens to the current players contracts once the league goes un-capped? Correct me if I am wrong, but if there is no cba then teams can cut players without any ramifications...

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

Schneed what happens to the current players contracts once the league goes un-capped? Correct me if I am wrong, but if there is no cba then teams can cut players without any ramifications...

Was thinkin the same thing myself. I could see us releasing half a dozen guys if this is the case who otherwise we'd be stuck with.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

Schneed what happens to the current players contracts once the league goes un-capped? Correct me if I am wrong, but if there is no cba then teams can cut players without any ramifications...

Correct, no cap ramifications at all. Personnel decisions get much simpler...

Can I find someone better to fill this underperforming vet's roster spot, or is the underperforming vet the best I can do?

It becomes a pure football decision, economics are limited only by Danny's cash. Which isn't much of a limit.

[Redskins8588]

So does it go back to like it was in the 80's where teams could hide players on the roster???

[Bill B]

If there is no cap than as many have said the rules get changed a little - here is the big rule change:

Rules for an uncapped year — including a requirement that players need six seasons rather than four to become unrestricted free agents — would take effect in March, a year before the CBA expires. Teams also wouldn't have to spend to the salary minimum or fund player benefits.

So in effect many of the free agents will have 2 more years of mileage on them making them even more risky - remember the average lifespan of an NFL player is between 3-4 years - so if you are now signing up a bunch of players with 6 years experience you are pushing the envelope.

In my opinion is we go uncapped it would be even more reason that you go to building your team via the draft and the Skins need to get the best GM and front office money can buy. Simply thinking the free agency route will be the easy way to go will become even more of a outdated and incorrect model for building a consistent winner.

[skinster]

Originally Posted by Bill B

If there is no cap than as many have said the rules get changed a little - here is the big rule change:

Rules for an uncapped year — including a requirement that players need six seasons rather than four to become unrestricted free agents — would take effect in March, a year before the CBA expires. Teams also wouldn't have to spend to the salary minimum or fund player benefits.

So in effect many of the free agents will have 2 more years of mileage on them making them even more risky - remember the average lifespan of an NFL player is between 3-4 years - so if you are now signing up a bunch of players with 6 years experience you are pushing the envelope.

In my opinion is we go uncapped it would be even more reason that you go to building your team via the draft and the Skins need to get the best GM and front office money can buy. Simply thinking the free agency route will be the easy way to go will become even more of a outdated and incorrect model for building a consistent winner.

Good info. Didnt know about that 6 year thing. What would the salaries of the restricted FA's be?

On a side note, I don't buy that whole 3-4 year thing. The average is that low because of the vast amount of players who arent good enough to play for more than a season or two. I dont view these guys professional football players, they will not make a living off the NFL. Anyone who is any good (worth picking up in FA) plays significantly longer

[franklinhimself]

so basically, this offseason is probably the only offseason we can release salary cap monsters such as portis, moss, samuels (retires) and not be penalized for it?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by skinster

Good info. Didnt know about that 6 year thing. What would the salaries of the restricted FA's be?

On a side note, I don't buy that whole 3-4 year thing. The average is that low because of the vast amount of players who arent good enough to play for more than a season or two. I dont view these guys professional football players, they will not make a living off the NFL. Anyone who is any good (worth picking up in FA) plays significantly longer

To an extent sure. But think of how everyone is saying a RB hits 30 and is basically done. You get him around 27-28 and he's going to go for somewhere likely that offers 4-5 years top dollar, so you can end up with 3 years where you're not getting much from him potentially, then you release him and take the hit on the signing bonus.

[DIE-NASTY]

thanks for the info. You guys answered a bunch of my questions on this matter.

[tootergray34]

I hope we cut randle el

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by tootergray34

I hope we cut randle el

Definitely.

Moss can be our new slot WR and PR.

[LandrySlice]

^ me too, he is one of the number ones in my crosshairs!

[CRedskinsRule]

Come March 5th, or once the cap is dead, there will be a flurry of retirements/cuts, Chris should be one of the retirees. He was/is awesome, and should go into the Redskins Ring as soon as possible, but our team needs to move forward now.