Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Saints)

SmootSmack · 12-06-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by r08kessl

Who cares abou good, all I want is someone who understands the fundamentals of thr position

I said good enough...not the same thing as good

ethat001 · 12-06-2009, 05:33 PM

I agree completely. Great game, lost by a kicker. Again. No excuse - fire him.

But:
1) Our offensive line played good.
2) JC looked good because our offensive line played good.
3) Our WR & RBs looked good because our offensive line played good.
4) See #1.

This is EXACTLY why I think we should draft O-line first, second and third next year. Jason Campbell and the team can play really well if he has time to throw and RB's have holes to run into.

Btw, anyone else think Campbell had the benefit of playing against a G.Williams defense for years -- and could pick up coverages quickly against him?

r08kessl · 12-06-2009, 05:34 PM

Forgot to meantion that I love Kevin barnes, the cb position is looking solid for a while

Chico23231 · 12-06-2009, 05:45 PM

I thought JC has been playing extremely well the last several games, if he could have lead the team down for the win would have really really impressed me. Think the Bingo caller has had much more of a substanial impact than I originally thought. Im blown away the offense has played better without Portis, Samual, Thomas, Cooley...

skinsfaninok · 12-06-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

I thought JC has been playing extremely well the last several games, if he could have lead the team down for the win would have really really impressed me. Think the Bingo caller has had much more of a substanial impact than I originally thought. Im blown away the offense has played better without Portis, Samual, Thomas, Cooley...

JC just cant win a CLUTCH MOMENT.. Don't get me wrong he played AMAZING today and destroyed GW's defense.. But it just seems like he can never pull out a GREAT drive for the win.. As far as CP, and Randy thomas go.... SEE YA some where else. I still think we could get a 2nd round pick for cooley. I doubt we even look at trading him but it couldn't hurt. F.D has proved that he can be a stud TE.

Ruhskins · 12-06-2009, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

JC just cant win a CLUTCH MOMENT.. Don't get me wrong he played AMAZING today and destroyed GW's defense.. But it just seems like he can never pull out a GREAT drive for the win.. As far as CP, and Randy thomas go.... SEE YA some where else. I still think we could get a 2nd round pick for cooley. I doubt we even look at trading him but it couldn't hurt. F.D has proved that he can be a stud TE.

JC played as well as we want him to play. He's not a Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, or Tom Brady (when Brady was in his prime...not the Tom Brady that gave up last week).

How many times, are you going to put an average QB in this position.

- Patched up offensive line
- Third-string RB with two guys off the street
- Without his best receiving weapon
- A beat up defense
- Against either the best team in football or one of the top 3 teams in football with the conditions I have listed above.

Lotus · 12-06-2009, 05:55 PM

The team overall played well. Devin Thomas chose a great time for his debutante party and other young players showed well. It is hard to fault too many people because we should have won.

We would have won were it not for a couple of fluke plays in a row (the punt and the Kareem Moore play). While both Barnes and Moore can be blamed, it is both freakish and harsh that the penalty for their actions was 7 points.

We also would have won had our kicker shown up. I'm glad I'm not one of Suisham's kids.

NYCSkin · 12-06-2009, 05:48 PM

1. Landry--Could not agree more. Time to shop him in the offseason. I'll take a 3rd rounder at this point for him. We are deep at safety and could even move Smoot to FS. Too much attitude, too many mistakes, no game changing plays....
2. Suisham. Yeah the snap was high but he has a long history of missing in the clutch. I am still pissed at him for that miss in Seattle a few years back.
3.THE DAMN STRETCH PLAY IN THE REDZONE. Enough with this play. We can't run it and it is always a momentum killer. I don't blame the coaches for the three runs prior to Suisham's miss but when the Skins were up 27-20 you can't run this play on 3rd down and goal. Take it out of the playbook now Sherman Smith.
4.Greg Blache and his defense. I know it's the explosive Saints but his "Bend Don't Break D" has broken down three consecutive weeks in the 4th quarter. He has got to do something different to get this defense to hold a 4th quarter lead. The Skins are a top 5 D for three quarters. But in the 4th they seem like they never stop anyone. Maybe Vinny can get Richie Petitbon to call defensive plays in the 4th quarter...

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r08kessl · 12-06-2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NYCSkin

1. Landry--Could not agree more. Time to shop him in the offseason. I'll take a 3rd rounder at this point for him. We are deep at safety and could even move Smoot to FS. Too much attitude, too many mistakes, no game changing plays....

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I disagree though, I think he could be a force at Strong safety, and he could be te attitude we've been missing on defense, I just think he's a liability at te wrong position

NYCSkin · 12-06-2009, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by r08kessl

I disagree though, I think he could be a force at safety, and he could be te attitude we've been missing on defense, I just think he's a liability at te wrong position

You know, I used to think that but I would rather have Horton or Doughty at SS. They are players who have a better +/- ratio of plays compared to Landry and they have less penalties. And their salaries, probably combined, are cheaper. So I say just be done with Landry and draft a OG or RB with the 3rd you could probably get for him.

Trample the Elderly · 12-06-2009, 06:20 PM

I (Reed Doughty) played good today.

budw38 · 12-06-2009, 05:48 PM

The entire Offense , Orakpo , Daniels and Doughty . The cowpukes come to town in three weeks , just in time for a Christmas present for DC < a win > .

RMSkins · 12-06-2009, 05:49 PM

I'm sorry, but I can't rip Moore on that play. Moore was down by contact and the refs botched the call. I still feel that Moore should be starting at FS over Landry. Move Landry to SS and lets see what Moore can do back there.

SmootSmack · 12-06-2009, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RMSkins

I'm sorry, but I can't rip Moore on that play. Moore was down by contact and the refs botched the call. I still feel that Moore should be starting at FS over Landry. Move Landry to SS and lets see what Moore can do back there.

You know I was just about to go and edit my original post, because I went back and watched the play and I don't blame him really

RMSkins · 12-06-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You know I was just about to go and edit my original post, because I went back and watched the play and I don't blame him really

I'm glad you saw that. It really was a fluke play, and the refs didn't help much.

12-06-2009, 05:33 PM	#2
ethat001 Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 920	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Saints) I agree completely. Great game, lost by a kicker. Again. No excuse - fire him. But: 1) Our offensive line played good. 2) JC looked good because our offensive line played good. 3) Our WR & RBs looked good because our offensive line played good. 4) See #1. This is EXACTLY why I think we should draft O-line first, second and third next year. Jason Campbell and the team can play really well if he has time to throw and RB's have holes to run into. Btw, anyone else think Campbell had the benefit of playing against a G.Williams defense for years -- and could pick up coverages quickly against him?

12-06-2009, 05:34 PM	#3
r08kessl Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 75	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Saints) Forgot to meantion that I love Kevin barnes, the cb position is looking solid for a while

12-06-2009, 05:45 PM	#4
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,021	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Saints) I thought JC has been playing extremely well the last several games, if he could have lead the team down for the win would have really really impressed me. Think the Bingo caller has had much more of a substanial impact than I originally thought. Im blown away the offense has played better without Portis, Samual, Thomas, Cooley... __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

12-06-2009, 05:55 PM	#7
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Saints) The team overall played well. Devin Thomas chose a great time for his debutante party and other young players showed well. It is hard to fault too many people because we should have won. We would have won were it not for a couple of fluke plays in a row (the punt and the Kareem Moore play). While both Barnes and Moore can be blamed, it is both freakish and harsh that the penalty for their actions was 7 points. We also would have won had our kicker shown up. I'm glad I'm not one of Suisham's kids. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

12-06-2009, 05:48 PM	#8
NYCSkin Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Age: 54 Posts: 513	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Saints) 1. Landry--Could not agree more. Time to shop him in the offseason. I'll take a 3rd rounder at this point for him. We are deep at safety and could even move Smoot to FS. Too much attitude, too many mistakes, no game changing plays.... 2. Suisham. Yeah the snap was high but he has a long history of missing in the clutch. I am still pissed at him for that miss in Seattle a few years back. 3.THE DAMN STRETCH PLAY IN THE REDZONE. Enough with this play. We can't run it and it is always a momentum killer. I don't blame the coaches for the three runs prior to Suisham's miss but when the Skins were up 27-20 you can't run this play on 3rd down and goal. Take it out of the playbook now Sherman Smith. 4.Greg Blache and his defense. I know it's the explosive Saints but his "Bend Don't Break D" has broken down three consecutive weeks in the 4th quarter. He has got to do something different to get this defense to hold a 4th quarter lead. The Skins are a top 5 D for three quarters. But in the 4th they seem like they never stop anyone. Maybe Vinny can get Richie Petitbon to call defensive plays in the 4th quarter... 4.

12-06-2009, 06:20 PM	#11
Trample the Elderly Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Three Chopt Virginia Age: 47 Posts: 2,906	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Saints) I (Reed Doughty) played good today. __________________ A funny thing happened on the way to the temple. The moneychangers bought the priesthood.

12-06-2009, 05:48 PM	#12
budw38 Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern,Va. Posts: 2,706	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Saints) The entire Offense , Orakpo , Daniels and Doughty . The cowpukes come to town in three weeks , just in time for a Christmas present for DC < a win > .

12-06-2009, 05:49 PM	#13
RMSkins The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 37 Posts: 1,066	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Saints) I'm sorry, but I can't rip Moore on that play. Moore was down by contact and the refs botched the call. I still feel that Moore should be starting at FS over Landry. Move Landry to SS and lets see what Moore can do back there.

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