WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade

[TheMalcolmConnection]

The agent seems to be a pretty damn reliable source. If it's NOT true, then that's one new agent he'll be getting...

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

The agent seems to be a pretty damn reliable source. If it's NOT true, then that's one new agent he'll be getting...

I agree about the agent, but it still is the WP reporting it, and I hope they are wrong. An awful lot of quotes though, and pretty clear statements.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I just hate this whole thing. Seriously, think of the worst thing that could possibly happen to you and then ask yourself if you'd take forty million dollars for it...99% of us would at least CONSIDER it. BUT THIS IS HIS JOB.

He became the highest paid defensive player in history and then wants to jump ship because things are different. What a bitch.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Thats what I thought to, but obviously it looks like I was wrong. I'll be damned all the ESPN Insider talk was right.

This is sort of funny for me. I got such flack for posting links to LaCanfora's articles about AH/trade talk at the end and now this guy does indeed want out for sure. It wasn't that hard to figure out the guy was looking to take a hike, especially after being a no show for the OTAs for a new regime/system. Can't blame AH, he took the money, can't blame Shanny and Allen, they didn't acquire him. The shit can be layed soley at the feet of Cerrato and Snyder for paying the man such a ridiculous sum of money, and hiring such a waste of space for a HC. This is what Snyder gets for running such a pathetic operation all of these years. IF anything this should end Snyder's addiction to paying ridiculous salaries.

[JoeRedskin]

There are many qualities Shanahan exhibited in his tenure at Denver that were less than laudatory - tremendous ego, blame shifting, personnel choices...

Being a wuss-assed coach afraid of his players was NOT one of those qualities.

Big Al is gonna be the Big Loser in this one. I was fine with him missing voluntary camp, hey, it's voluntary. But this is the big FU to Shanahan and Allen. Give it a shot Al, see how it works for you. Allen has already said he never would have signed Haynesworth for the deal he got from [blechhh] Cerrato. I just don't see Shanahan and Allen caring what Haynesworth chooses to do.

(BTW - Whenever I think of Cerrato, I throw up a little. Anyone else have this reaction?)

I just don't see Haynesworth forcing a trade on anything other than Shanahan's terms - i.e. salary cap relief and quality picks &/or players. IMHO Shanallen will gladly let Al pay back his bonus in fines.

"It's going to be a distraction" - Oh really?? Not to anybody who wants to stay on the roster. Al: "I am not going to play for you!"; Shanallen: "Okay, but u aint playing for anybody else either. Anybody else 'not want to play' for me? There's the door."

Haynesworth thinks he is drawing a line in the sand. Hey Al, got news for you, Shanahan was playing hardball when you playing Pop Warner ball.

Al is dead to me. I hope they just back burner him and proceed as if he wasn't even on the team. F' him.

[MTK]

Hope he enjoys the fines

[Art Hunk]

Does anyone know the most amount of money that the team can fine him? It would probably not be enough.

I hope they never trade him and let him rot and gain weight on his couch.

[Ruhskins]

I love how people are focusing on the player, yet this will signify a major fail by this organization....I would say both from the previous and current regimes.

To begin, I would say that AH is a major dick for doing this, but there is nothing we can do about this and in the end his reputation will take a major hit.

However, I fault this whole situation on the team for: 1. Paying a ton of money for a player that had some discipline issues (last regime). 2. Completely changing the defensive scheme that would make the team's most expensive player into something completely different (NT); and not trading him before the draft (this is whole on the current regime).

Now teams are going to low-ball the Redskins, because he has become a problem child for the team. Regardless, all parties are at fault and all lose something...well except AH who earned 21 mil. for playing a few games last season.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I just hate this whole thing. Seriously, think of the worst thing that could possibly happen to you and then ask yourself if you'd take forty million dollars for it...99% of us would at least CONSIDER it. BUT THIS IS HIS JOB.

He became the highest paid defensive player in history and then wants to jump ship because things are different. What a bitch.

I agree Malcolm, but today's player is all about the $$$$$$$$. You can't pay a man that kind of money guaranteed with hardly any incentives to kick ass and expect optimal performance, much less a hard work ethic.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

There are many qualities Shanahan exhibited in his tenure at Denver that were less than laudatory - tremendous ego, blame shifting, personnel choices...

Being a wuss-assed coach afraid of his players was NOT one of those qualities.

Big Al is gonna be the Big Loser in this one. I was fine with him missing voluntary camp, hey, it's voluntary. But this is the big FU to Shanahan and Allen. Give it a shot Al, see how it works for you. Allen has already said he never would have signed Haynesworth for the deal he got from [blechhh] Cerrato. I just don't see Shanahan and Allen caring what Haynesworth chooses to do.

(BTW - Whenever I think of Cerrato, I throw up a little. Anyone else have this reaction?)

I just don't see Haynesworth forcing a trade on anything other than Shanahan's terms - i.e. salary cap relief and quality picks &/or players. IMHO Shanallen will gladly let Al pay back his bonus in fines.

"It's going to be a distraction" - Oh really?? Not to anybody who wants to stay on the roster. Al: "I am not going to play for you!"; Shanallen: "Okay, but u aint playing for anybody else either. Anybody else 'not want to play' for me? There's the door."

Haynesworth thinks he is drawing a line in the sand. Hey Al, got news for you, Shanahan was playing hardball when you playing Pop Warner ball.

Al is dead to me. I hope they just back burner him and proceed as if he wasn't even on the team. F' him.

Well said, and exactly how I feel as well (unless he shows up tomorrow and makes nice with MS)

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

I agree Malcolm, but today's player is all about the $$$$$$$$. You can't pay a man that kind of money guaranteed with hardly any incentives to kick ass and expect optimal performance, much less a hard work ethic.

Agreed, which I'm more pissed at the team for getting him, paying him this much, and not trading him before the draft. Now, we'd be lucky if we get a 3rd rounder for him.

Haslett's defense better be lights out this season, otherwise being a Redskins fan is going to suck big time (unless somehow we can become like those offensive juggernauts)

[mooby]

You know up until I heard this I was totally on the "hey he's just missing voluntary camp, and if he's been working out with his personal trainer and trying to get back to his dominant form than I don't see that as a huge deal. As long as he ends up playing and having a good season for us I don't care" bandwagon. Now I'm solidly on the "f this fat fuck" bandwagon. It's a straight bitch move to wait until the day before the mandatory minicamp to announce you were lying and you ain't attending shit, mandatory or not. I hope you get traded as long as we get decent value back (I'm fine with a 2nd rounder), or in the event you don't get traded, I hope we sit your ass the entire year and I hope you go on to have a miserable career while you piss away all the money you took from us and then end up in horrible debt like so many other pro athletes once they've retired.

Or in the event you come to your senses and you act like a man and do the job you are getting paid to do, well then I will admit I overreacted and obviously let it go. But I doubt that's gonna happen, that's just a gut feeling.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I love how people are focusing on the player, yet this will signify a major fail by this organization....I would say both from the previous and current regimes.

To begin, I would say that AH is a major dick for doing this, but there is nothing we can do about this and in the end his reputation will take a major hit.

However, I fault this whole situation on the team for: 1. Paying a ton of money for a player that had some discipline issues (last regime). 2. Completely changing the defensive scheme that would make the team's most expensive player into something completely different (NT); and not trading him before the draft (this is whole on the current regime).

Now teams are going to low-ball the Redskins, because he has become a problem child for the team. Regardless, all parties are at fault and all lose something...well except AH who earned 21 mil. for playing a few games last season.

This is the final nail in the coffin hopefully for the Danny in having a major say in football operations, other than signing the checks. The guy cost us a good decade almost right off the bat. He fired Norv midseason, when the man still had a winning record and a shot at the playoffs, made good with getting Marty, but canned him since he wanted more control, then hired gimmick HCs in Spurrier, then Gibbs(who was out of the game for over a decade), then hired a moron for HC. He gave millions to the new "Wheeze Kids" during the last days of the Turner era, and of course we can't forget the lousy drafts. I mean who could manage to screw up when you have 2 first rounders?( I know hindsight is 20/20, but you know JC and Rogers never lived up to their billing)

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I love how people are focusing on the player, yet this will signify a major fail by this organization....I would say both from the previous and current regimes.

...

However, I fault this whole situation on the team for: 1. Paying a ton of money for a player that had some discipline issues (last regime). 2. Completely changing the defensive scheme that would make the team's most expensive player into something completely different (NT); and not trading him before the draft (this is whole on the current regime).
Now teams are going to low-ball the Redskins, because he has become a problem child for the team. Regardless, all parties are at fault and all lose something...well except AH who earned 21 mil. for playing a few games last season.

Sorry, this is a true Snyderrato. Shanahan and Allen came in and said - "Here's how we're playing the game. I am the coach, he's the GM and we decide what's best for the team. The inmates are no longer running the asylum. Get on board with that now." Who's to say Haynesworth wouldn't be a kick ass NT if he tried? Guess we will never know.

As for trading AH, F that. AH wanted to pull a Cutler on Shanahan and Shanny said "Nope."

I got nooooo problems with how Shanahan has handled it. Coaches rule, Players drool.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

i thought reid and JLC were just making all those rumors up. i guess all those reports were true after all...