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Gmanc711 · 11-21-2004, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

He does the right thing, goes and lies on the scoring table in agonizing pain, then some jackass throws something on him. I think this one is all on the fans, and I hope artest punched him once for me!

In agonizing pain? Wasent he doing an interview with the Indian Pacers radio network? That was pretty ignorant on his part, personally thought. I dont think you can put it all on the fans, but you cant put it all on Artest either. Pretty much all parties involved deserve a substansial amount blame. I do question how Artest can walk away calmly from big Ben Wallace after he shoved him in the face, but when the short, skinny fan threw somthing at him, he came running for a fight. Just my opnion though, everyone is entitled to theirs.

SmootSmack · 11-21-2004, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You just can't jump in to the stands like Artest did, no matther what.

Did anyone see that little kid in the stands right next to where Artest jumped on that guy? The little kid looked horrified.

I'd like to see Artest face a very lengthy suspension. The guy is a jackass.

I think the video will show clearly that it was that "innocent" little kid that threw the cup at Artest

Seriously though...I know a lot of people are saying that Artest shouldn't have rushed the stands but I really believe that once that first cup was thrown at Artest sh*t was gonna escalate regardless. If he didn't react I think, and again this is just my gut feeling, that the fans would have thought "hey Artest isn't doing anything, he's free game, let's keep throwing things at him and other Pacers"

Either way I wouldn't be surprised if we're looking at all these guys being out through 2004

That Guy · 11-21-2004, 02:00 AM

this could really kill the pacer's on-court season in a big way... the thing i don't get is why ben got so pissed off to begin with... he's usually held up as what's right in the nba and that foul wasn't flagrant or anything... and especially against a meathead like artest, there was no way anything good was going to come out of that. The ref should have IMMEDIATELY kicked both players (err, i mean all three) out of the game, i mean zero seconds pass, they're both gone. Though it would have been hard to do, in hindsight I think that would have been the only thing to stop the escalation once ben started shoving...

Gmanc711 · 11-21-2004, 10:18 AM

I agree that guy. I dont think you can really blame Ben Wallace for what happend with the fans, but I blame him more than Artest for the initial confrentation. The foul was proboly unessacary, but I dont think it was that hard.

RedskinRat · 11-21-2004, 01:08 PM

Violence should stay in the crowd, just like it does at soccer games.

That Guy · 11-21-2004, 11:42 PM

soccer games in europe have moats filled with cops in riot gear and 20 foot barricades... god i don't want to see that...

artest is out for the season.. 73 games... other two got 30 and 25, ben wallace got 6... another 5 game and 4 1 game suspensions, wow... they came down hard.

11-21-2004, 10:18 AM	#19
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	I agree that guy. I dont think you can really blame Ben Wallace for what happend with the fans, but I blame him more than Artest for the initial confrentation. The foul was proboly unessacary, but I dont think it was that hard. __________________ #21

11-21-2004, 02:00 AM	#18
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	this could really kill the pacer's on-court season in a big way... the thing i don't get is why ben got so pissed off to begin with... he's usually held up as what's right in the nba and that foul wasn't flagrant or anything... and especially against a meathead like artest, there was no way anything good was going to come out of that. The ref should have IMMEDIATELY kicked both players (err, i mean all three) out of the game, i mean zero seconds pass, they're both gone. Though it would have been hard to do, in hindsight I think that would have been the only thing to stop the escalation once ben started shoving...

11-21-2004, 01:08 PM	#20
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Violence should stay in the crowd, just like it does at soccer games.

11-21-2004, 11:42 PM	#21
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	soccer games in europe have moats filled with cops in riot gear and 20 foot barricades... god i don't want to see that... artest is out for the season.. 73 games... other two got 30 and 25, ben wallace got 6... another 5 game and 4 1 game suspensions, wow... they came down hard.

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