Twitter burns as Owners ratify

[SkinzWin]

Say it ain't so Smoot. Players will catch a shit storm if they hold up this deal any longer I believe. They have to want to get back badly.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Say it ain't so Smoot. Players will catch a shit storm if they hold up this deal any longer I believe. They have to want to get back badly.

I agree. Enough is enough. The players need to sign the damn thing and put this crap to bed.

[MTK]

Pressure is on Smith now to convince the players.

[MTK]

If all that's lost out of this is the HOF game, it's a win for all.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

If all that's lost out of this is the HOF game, it's a win for all.

...except the people going "into" the Hall.

[Longtimefan]

Strained at the moment....a little more work to be done.

[Lotus]

More details on the agreement here:
Details of new NFL collective bargaining agreement - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

Good thing that Al Davis put his foot down and abstained. That'll show 'em.

[FRPLG]

Anyone else still on the players' side? I have waffled a bit back and forth but I think these recent shenanigans prove the players are the worse of the two evils in this situation. That's hard to do when your opponent is a bunch of rich entitled multi-millionaires. Good job De Smith...not only did eff this up in the beginning now can't even bring it home. What a useless pile you have proven to be.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Anyone else still on the players' side? I have waffled a bit back and forth but I think these recent shenanigans prove the players are the worse of the two evils in this situation. That's hard to do when your opponent is a bunch of rich entitled multi-millionaires. Good job De Smith...not only did eff this up in the beginning now can't even bring it home. What a useless pile you have proven to be.

The players deserve the chance to review what's on the table. And Smith now has to sell them on it. Did you expect an instant resolution?

[Lotus]

There are 32 owners, 1700 players. It makes sense that player ratification may take longer.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

The players deserve the chance to review what's on the table. And Smith now has to sell them on it. Did you expect an instant resolution?

Yes. They hired someone to negotiate a CBA for them. They should rubber stamp it plain and simple or fire Smith. Either they trust him or not. They certainly don't need to come in at the last minute and derail the whole thing. Their asses needed to be involved to be able to say anything in my opinion.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Yes. They hired someone to negotiate a CBA for them. They should rubber stamp it plain and simple or fire Smith. Either they trust him or not. They certainly don't need to come in at the last minute and derail the whole thing. Their asses needed to be involved to be able to say anything in my opinion.

so the owners shouldn't care what RG negotiated for them, just stamp on it ?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

so the owners shouldn't care what RG negotiated for them, just stamp on it ?

moreso, they should have kept up with it and made sure the terms were staying within acceptable limits. And I think it's clear that the owners were all kept in a basic loop of knowledge, so that any major issues were worked out and agreed on in timely fashions.

If they did that, then this vote should have been fairly simple, as opposed to 32 reps (or 1900 players) having to read a 600 or so page document.

When you purchase or sell a house, you may give your realtor or attorney basic powers, but you still expect to be made aware of any progress that is being made. That's just due diligence.

[SmootSmack]

I'm absolutely on the players's side. The owners ratified their own deal, including in it some terms the players had said they would not agree to. Maybe the players will agree to them, but they certainly won't (and shouldn't) approve anything they haven't seen.

Players have been getting information piecemeal, some like what they heard others didn't. Now the players reps are looking over the proposal, and likely won't vote on it tonight. But, as much as all of us wish they would agree to the deal and get on with it, that's not a fair or realistic expectation. They've been locked out for over four months. They have every right not to be pressured into anything.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm absolutely on the players's side. The owners ratified their own deal, including in it some terms the players had said they would not agree to. Maybe the players will agree to them, but they certainly won't (and shouldn't) approve anything they haven't seen.

Players have been getting information piecemeal, some like what they heard others didn't. Now the players reps are looking over the proposal, and likely won't vote on it tonight. But, as much as all of us wish they would agree to the deal and get on with it, that's not a fair or realistic expectation. They've been locked out for over four months. They have every right not to be pressured into anything.

I'm 100% with you.. This is a straight bully move by Goodell and the owners. Great job by them of making the players (an easy target) look like the bad guys but some very simple facts remain unchanged and unchallenged:
1. The owners opted out of an existing CBA
2. The owners locked the players out

How the players are getting blamed for anything is baffling to me (not really, there is a rather obvious reason but I won't go there) other than the owners doing a better job of painting the picture of good vs. bad in this scenario.