Shanahan: "the most underrated player in the history of the game"

[firstdown]

You also have to remember that was a comment MS made before the teams played the up comming Sunday. That's how a smart coach talks before to team play each other.

[saden1]

He got burned a lot but you have to think about the scheme Philly has been running the last two years and their lack of safety talent. It has been a pretty dysfunctional defense and I would think playing under those circumstances doesn't bring the best out of people.

Do I think Nnamdi is as good as he was 5 years ago? Not a chance. Do I think he can thrive under the right circumstance? Absolutely. He got burned by RG3 but who hasn't? Especially when a team has a mediocre safeties.

[Schneed10]

He doesn't fit Haslett's scheme any better than he fit Philly's. He's a great press-man guy, but in a zone scheme he struggles.

[The Goat]

I'd be happier with DHall and his cheaper contract.

[Skins4L]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I'd be happier with DHall and his cheaper contract.

agreed.

[The Goat]

Like to pose this question to the "brains" around here: do we ask a lot of our corners? Schematically wise I think we do. Aside from the Steelers few teams (successfully) use the corner blitz. Our late season success saw a lot of that kind of scheming btw. Sure, Orakpo will be back. Is he gonna change everything? I hope not if you get my drift.

Hall knows the scheme and plays it well when he's serious out there. Whatever he's lost in talent is off-set by experience and knowledge. I highly, highly doubt there's a CB in draft/FA who would overall outperform Hall next season as a Redskin.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Like to pose this question to the "brains" around here: do we ask a lot of our corners? Schematically wise I think we do. Aside from the Steelers few teams (successfully) use the corner blitz. Our late season success saw a lot of that kind of scheming btw. Sure, Orakpo will be back. Is he gonna change everything? I hope not if you get my drift.

Hall knows the scheme and plays it well when he's serious out there. Whatever he's lost in talent is off-set by experience and knowledge. I highly, highly doubt there's a CB in draft/FA who would overall outperform Hall next season as a Redskin.

Seeing as how only one corner allowed more yards than Hall this entire year, and seeing as how his value was no where near what the Skins would have to pay him, I do not think it will be hard to find a replacement for basically one of the worst values for a corner in the NFL.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Seeing as how only one corner allowed more yards than Hall this entire year, and seeing as how his value was no where near what the Skins would have to pay him, I do not think it will be hard to find a replacement for basically the one of the worst values for a corner in the NFL.

Totally agree.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Seeing as how only one corner allowed more yards than Hall this entire year, and seeing as how his value was no where near what the Skins would have to pay him, I do not think it will be hard to find a replacement for basically one of the worst values for a corner in the NFL.

I agree that we can probably find better value than hall in fa this year. 50/50 shot that we will get better overall corner play. But the above statistic isnt completely fair, after our best pass rusher gets taken out, and we had arguably the worst pass defending safeties in the history of the league for the first 9-10 games last year. DHall played his butt off last year, did alot in helping stop the run, and locked down the teams best receivers at times taking them totally out of the game. DHall will get his 5-6 mil per year somewhere else. But that stat holds water about as good as Bonnie and Clydes car.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

I agree that we can probably find better value than hall in fa this year. 50/50 shot that we will get better overall corner play. But the above statistic isnt completely fair, after our best pass rusher gets taken out, and we had arguably the worst pass defending safeties in the history of the league for the first 9-10 games last year. DHall played his butt off last year, did alot in helping stop the run, and locked down the teams best receivers at times taking them totally out of the game. DHall will get his 5-6 mil per year somewhere else. But that stat holds water about as good as Bonnie and Clydes car.

LOL

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

I agree that we can probably find better value than hall in fa this year. 50/50 shot that we will get better overall corner play. But the above statistic isnt completely fair, after our best pass rusher gets taken out, and we had arguably the worst pass defending safeties in the history of the league for the first 9-10 games last year. DHall played his butt off last year, did alot in helping stop the run, and locked down the teams best receivers at times taking them totally out of the game. DHall will get his 5-6 mil per year somewhere else. But that stat holds water about as good as Bonnie and Clydes car.

To be the second worst though in the entire NFL is atrocious, no matter the pass rush or safety play. There are a lot of other starting corners in the NFL and only one player gave up more yards than Hall. That is terrible. Not even the other Redskins corner gave up more yards than Hall. Captain Munerlyn who gets paid 565,000 played better than Hall. Adam Pacman Jones was paid less than a million and payed better than Hall.

Pro football focus has the best free agents available at corner and you can see where hall's rating is... -3.2... That is not worth 5+ million, I do not care what other excuses he might have, he should not be playing that bad for what the Skins were paying him.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...t-cornerbacks/

[takethecake]

Didn't Hall play through injuries quite a bit last year? Or am I making that up? Might have hurt his performance

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by donofriose

To be the second worst though in the entire NFL is atrocious, no matter the pass rush or safety play. There are a lot of other starting corners in the NFL and only one player gave up more yards than Hall. That is terrible. Not even the other Redskins corner gave up more yards than Hall. Captain Munerlyn who gets paid 565,000 played better than Hall. Adam Pacman Jones was paid less than a million and payed better than Hall.

Pro football focus has the best free agents available at corner and you can see where hall's rating is... -3.2... That is not worth 5+ million, I do not care what other excuses he might have, he should not be playing that bad for what the Skins were paying him.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...t-cornerbacks/

I am nots aying Hall was a top coverage cornerback but I would be interested to see how the stats were compiled.. watching games it appears the safeties let him down a lot

[Skins4L]

If we can get him at a cheaper price than say Talib... hes worth it on a one year deal and keep some cap $ for next year. I feel like weve degressed this offseason or on our way when its all said and done. Were not in a position to give Griffin any new weapons when we all know he needs one cause hes gonna have to stay in the pocket a little more. And also are not in the position to bolster our defense which is in desperate need in the back end now.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

And he'll probably be available.

Mike Shanahan Calls Nnamdi Asomugha the Most Underrated Player Ever

(Quote is from 2008)

Funny how he doesnt come close to top cb discussion now.. plus shanny isnt in same division... well last year he was again...