Stop complaining about Champ Bailey

jdlea · 03-31-2005, 12:25 AM

I meant his second stint. I'm still a little shaky as to whether he can adjust to today's NFL. I have all the respect in the world for what Gibbs did. What he will do is a different story. I don't know what's going to come of this team. For the record, I knew the answer to those questions.

My point was he's old (65) and his acclomplishments, while great, are a long time ago and for all anyone knows...long behind him. I don't think they are, I think he will return this team to greatness, but that's because I have faith. Champ didn't. Good riddance.

What's getting twisted is that I don't even really like Champ. I'm just tired of talking about him and people berrating him every time he makes a bad comment about the Skins. I don't care. But people wanna be like "I hate him" because he called Courtney Brown and whoever wrote the article decided to put in "he probably many good things to say about his former employer." Nothing in that article was a quote from Champ. So it was just hear say. After this thread dies, I could never talk about Champ again and be perfectly happy.

Daseal · 03-30-2005, 11:10 PM

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I'm sorry, but this site is for Redskins fans. Perhaps you can track down a similar Broncos site if you'd like to spend the day riding Champ's jock and spouting off about how much better the Broncos have been in recent years than the skins.

Everyone that doesn't have your opinion isn't a Redskins fan, I see.

BigSKINBauer · 03-30-2005, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Everyone that doesn't have your opinion isn't a Redskins fan, I see.

yup, he doesn't seem like a fan when he is defending only the broncos, there was absolutly no reason to talk about switch thrower plummer. jake the snake that has ideas that are half baked maybe he should stay awake when he throws the ball

jdlea · 03-31-2005, 12:01 AM

I was content to never talk about Champ Bailey again, but you all keep going ballistic every time he says something. You're an asshole if you wish injury on anyone. Plain and simple. Only a prick would want a man's life or livelihood threatened. If you would actually enjoy seeing someone injured you have problems. Serious anger problems. There's something wrong if you think Champ deserves to get injured because he didn't have nice things to say about the Skins organization.

Remember one thing. You're not on the team. He's not talking about you. Him talking bad about our corners, I can understand you're angry about that. However, who cares if he doesn't like our FO. Again, I don't like them and I talk bad about them all the time. We're a poorly run franchise.

And as for your little bs about how I can shut up about people not being mad about him leaving...

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u kno wut i dnt care how he does at WR i jst wanna see his ass get KNOCKED OUT......we here in DC or ne where else treated him great we all liked him.....he goes nd says hes unhappy here nd seeks a trade.........same with smoot this whole thing about playing football for passion is a bunch of BULLLSHIT....EVERYONE IS AFTER THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...........the only person i can see actually staying by his word to stay with his team is RAY LEWIS.......i remember in the middle of the season wen people were actually aknowledging pierce he said" i love DC nd i dnt wanna' go anywhere else" well look at him now he left for somewhere else for couple 1000 more which we all know is nothing!!!!

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Preech it my brother!

Clearly you care that he left. He didn't say he didn't like the city. He didn't like the organization. That post was about how he was pissed that Champ left. He was pissed that Champ left. You agreed. Don't tell me you don't care that he left.

That post is the one that sparked mine.

jdlea · 03-31-2005, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

yup, he doesn't seem like a fan when he is defending only the broncos, there was absolutly no reason to talk about switch thrower plummer. jake the snake that has ideas that are half baked maybe he should stay awake when he throws the ball

Why did you quote Daseal's post during this jackass? Daseal was defending someone attacking mine. Why don't read the rest of the thread? I don't care if you all are Skins fans. I never question it. PSUSkinsFan21 posted the thing about me not being a Skins fan...that's what Daseal was responding to.

jdlea · 03-31-2005, 12:06 AM

And since everyone wants to bash me for bring up Plummer. I was just cutting you all off before you could say some dumb sh*t like, "I would never go to a team where Jake Plummer is the starter."

djnemo65 · 03-31-2005, 12:21 AM

not to sound preachy or anything, but i think we should all take a step back and remember that all of us are skins fans, and that means we are part of a fraternity of sorts. The losing over the last 10 years, the front office failures, the ridicule from the rest of the world, we all share having gone through this (obviously its made us a little cantankerous).

its easy to forget that we are all on the same team here. i live in a town - state college- where i get laughed at when i leave the house in my skins jerseys. on this site its supposed to be different.

my point is that, in spite of the many disagreements we collectively harbor about the direction of this franchise, we should maybe try and be nice to each other as fellow fans. this post has digressed into pure meaness and, for me at least, that isn't what this site should be all about.

I'm sure someone will cuss me out for writing this (lol) but that's what i think.

BigSKINBauer · 03-31-2005, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

Why did you quote Daseal's post during this jackass? Daseal was defending someone attacking mine. Why don't read the rest of the thread? I don't care if you all are Skins fans. I never question it. PSUSkinsFan21 posted the thing about me not being a Skins fan...that's what Daseal was responding to.

first of all i wasn't attacking daseal, this post makes no sense and it isn't that i dont agree w/u, half the time (for example) i don't agree w/ daseal but his posts make some sense. This post has no purpose at all, there is no reason that we should be neutral about some guy that won't shut up about how bad our organization is.

i have some questions for you

Do you think that he is arrogant?

Where do you rank him at CB in the league?

Do you think that he has expressed his dislike for the redskins? or do you believe he has no dislike for the redskins?

Do u think that we should just listen and not comment about how he bad talks our team?

Thats it and i would like an apology for calling me a jackass, i didn't say anything like that to you so reframe from using personal attacks on people.

Also i understand now why u talked about jake the snake, before it made no sense what so ever

jdlea · 03-31-2005, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

first of all i wasn't attacking daseal, this post makes no sense and it isn't that i dont agree w/u, half the time (for example) i don't agree w/ daseal but his posts make some sense. This post has no purpose at all, there is no reason that we should be neutral about some guy that won't shut up about how bad our organization is.

i have some questions for you

Do you think that he is arrogant?

Where do you rank him at CB in the league?

Do you think that he has expressed his dislike for the redskins? or do you believe he has no dislike for the redskins?

Do u think that we should just listen and not comment about how he bad talks our team?

Thats it and i would like an apology for calling me a jackass, i didn't say anything like that to you so reframe from using personal attacks on people.

Also i understand now why u talked about jake the snake, before it made no sense what so ever

I'll start off by apologizing for calling you a jackass. I just feel attacked when I put up a thread and a lot of people tear it apart. I'll say it stemmed from your post when you said I needed to shut up about something and you just started cussing up a storm for like 3 sentences. To me, I felt attacked. However, that didn't give me the right and I do apologize.

Now, I'll answer your questions. I think he is arrogant. I think he has the right to be. I think when he's on his game, he's the best in the league. Last year, I'd put him top 5-7. I think he has a great dislike for the organization, not the team. I don't think he holds any ill will toward the city. I don't think he likes Snyder and I don't think he trusts him.

I'll say again. I apologize for calling you a jackass.

jdlea · 03-30-2005, 11:15 PM

My whole point is "who cares?" He's not a Redskin. So what if he doesn't like em. I don't even like the front office. I think the Skins have one of the worst organizations in the league. I like the coaching staff and the players. I don't like Snyder. I don't like Cerrato. I'm skeptical about the Skins because I've been snake bitten by promise. It won't happen again.

Anyway, who cares what Champ thinks. He should worry about covering people on national TV. He should also figure out why Amani Toomer always put him in the toaster. I don't care if he runs his mouth. I think you all overblow some of what he says. The Courtney Brown thing...nobody even had a quote about him saying anything about the Skins. I can understand those of you for not liking him for talking about the Skins...my post was more about those who hate him for leaving or those who say he plays for the money. Or those who try to bash his size and say he'll get killed if he plays WR. I, personally, don't care what he says about the Skins. He's not one. He'll never be one again. I couldn't care less about Denver. I hate the team. The only reason I ever watched em is because I had Quentin Griffin starting in week 1 on my Fantasy Football team.

When it all comes down to it, anything Champ says is irrevelant. Until he starts putting up on the field again, his mouth is writing checks his ass can't cash.

BigSKINBauer · 03-30-2005, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

First of all, why did Champ have any reason to believe the Joe Gibbs era would be different than anyone else's? Joe has more credentials and everything else, but he's not a spring chicken. If I were Champ I would have worried that could leave at any time. Champ played for 1 less coach than he had years in the league when he was with Washington. I think he played 1 1/2 season for Norv and 2 for Spurrier. Spurrier left then we got Joe. The guy that Snyder wanted all along, right? Wrong. That was supposed to have been Spurrier.

Second, I'm tired of this "he plays for the money" bullsh*t. Yeah, he got a bigger contract in Denver. You know what sold him on it? The contract is front loaded. If he had signed the same deal with the Skins he would have had to restructure 3 years in or have been cut. Just because he played bad doesn't mean he doesn't care. Another question...did we make the playoffs last year? No. Did Denver? Yes. Was Denver a better team than Washington? Yes. I don't care if they got blown out, we weren't anywhere near a playoff caliber team.

Finally, we TRADED Champ Bailey. He didn't pick where he wanted to go. We got a top flite running back for him. Clinton Portis is as good a back as there is in this league so let it go! Champ for Portis. OMG, we gave up a second round pick. So what? If he played well we wouldn't have resigned him anyway, so what does it really matter?

Bottom line. He went to a better team and a better situation. Say what you want about them not winning playoff games, at least they play em. Say what you want about Plummer at least he lead em to the playoffs. Say what you want about the money...Denver's better. Bailey and a 2nd for Portis? Even after a "sub par" I'd still make that deal any day of the weak and twice on Sundays.

this post was a waste of time. no one is unhappy w/ him leaving so u shut up about that, we are upset that he runs his mouth and u said, y we care that he runs his mouth. why the fuck would we not care, its our team and he continually runs his damn mouth all the time. he needs to shut the fuck up before we do.
Its our team and we defend it so thats why we talk about him.

he is jelous he needs spot light and he's a damn coward.

i just hope that he does play WR and plays that slot and catches a ball( he should catch alot of balls this year expecially after learning first hand how to catch them balls from chad johnson and the other WRs that smoked his arse this year..... nothing better than learning first hand.) down the middle and arrington and taylor destroy him... litterally destroy him when he goes down the middle. but he will be tired from chasin santana and david up and down that field

"Say what you want about them not winning playoff games, at least they play em. Say what you want about Plummer at least he lead em to the playoffs. Say what you want about the money...Denver's better. Bailey and a 2nd for Portis?" what did we say about plummer that is retarded, any ways the dumbass threw the ball w/ his left hand! and he didn't lead them to the playoffs he led them out of the playoffs

Daseal · 03-31-2005, 12:23 AM

Whats with all the recent personal attacks? Jesus. If you don't like a post - avoid it.

Longtimefan · 03-31-2005, 12:48 AM

It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

jdlea · 03-31-2005, 12:52 AM

So I'm a fool now?! F U dude...lol j/k. I swear I'm joking.

Longtimefan · 03-31-2005, 12:59 AM

Just "Be Cool" my man, and "Think" about what you're saying!!!

03-31-2005, 12:25 AM	#1
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,109	Re: Stop complaining about Champ Bailey I meant his second stint. I'm still a little shaky as to whether he can adjust to today's NFL. I have all the respect in the world for what Gibbs did. What he will do is a different story. I don't know what's going to come of this team. For the record, I knew the answer to those questions. My point was he's old (65) and his acclomplishments, while great, are a long time ago and for all anyone knows...long behind him. I don't think they are, I think he will return this team to greatness, but that's because I have faith. Champ didn't. Good riddance. What's getting twisted is that I don't even really like Champ. I'm just tired of talking about him and people berrating him every time he makes a bad comment about the Skins. I don't care. But people wanna be like "I hate him" because he called Courtney Brown and whoever wrote the article decided to put in "he probably many good things to say about his former employer." Nothing in that article was a quote from Champ. So it was just hear say. After this thread dies, I could never talk about Champ again and be perfectly happy.

03-31-2005, 12:06 AM	#6
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,109	Re: Stop complaining about Champ Bailey And since everyone wants to bash me for bring up Plummer. I was just cutting you all off before you could say some dumb sh*t like, "I would never go to a team where Jake Plummer is the starter."

03-31-2005, 12:21 AM	#7
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: Stop complaining about Champ Bailey not to sound preachy or anything, but i think we should all take a step back and remember that all of us are skins fans, and that means we are part of a fraternity of sorts. The losing over the last 10 years, the front office failures, the ridicule from the rest of the world, we all share having gone through this (obviously its made us a little cantankerous). its easy to forget that we are all on the same team here. i live in a town - state college- where i get laughed at when i leave the house in my skins jerseys. on this site its supposed to be different. my point is that, in spite of the many disagreements we collectively harbor about the direction of this franchise, we should maybe try and be nice to each other as fellow fans. this post has digressed into pure meaness and, for me at least, that isn't what this site should be all about. I'm sure someone will cuss me out for writing this (lol) but that's what i think.

03-30-2005, 11:15 PM	#10
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,109	Re: Stop complaining about Champ Bailey My whole point is "who cares?" He's not a Redskin. So what if he doesn't like em. I don't even like the front office. I think the Skins have one of the worst organizations in the league. I like the coaching staff and the players. I don't like Snyder. I don't like Cerrato. I'm skeptical about the Skins because I've been snake bitten by promise. It won't happen again. Anyway, who cares what Champ thinks. He should worry about covering people on national TV. He should also figure out why Amani Toomer always put him in the toaster. I don't care if he runs his mouth. I think you all overblow some of what he says. The Courtney Brown thing...nobody even had a quote about him saying anything about the Skins. I can understand those of you for not liking him for talking about the Skins...my post was more about those who hate him for leaving or those who say he plays for the money. Or those who try to bash his size and say he'll get killed if he plays WR. I, personally, don't care what he says about the Skins. He's not one. He'll never be one again. I couldn't care less about Denver. I hate the team. The only reason I ever watched em is because I had Quentin Griffin starting in week 1 on my Fantasy Football team. When it all comes down to it, anything Champ says is irrevelant. Until he starts putting up on the field again, his mouth is writing checks his ass can't cash.

03-31-2005, 12:23 AM	#12
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: Stop complaining about Champ Bailey Whats with all the recent personal attacks? Jesus. If you don't like a post - avoid it. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

03-31-2005, 12:48 AM	#13
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Stop complaining about Champ Bailey It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

03-31-2005, 12:52 AM	#14
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,109	Re: Stop complaining about Champ Bailey So I'm a fool now?! F U dude...lol j/k. I swear I'm joking.

03-31-2005, 12:59 AM	#15
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Stop complaining about Champ Bailey Just "Be Cool" my man, and "Think" about what you're saying!!!

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