Why I'm Not Gonna Panic About Our QB

[44Deezel]

BTW, I'm not clamoring for Kirk Cousins, but it's funny how everyone assumes RG3 just needs time to develop and KC has somehow already peaked in his 3rd year and will never get any better. Who's to say he can't fix the turnover problem and evolve into a pretty good starting QB. Can't he at least get to the Alex Smith level?

[Evilgrin]

Cousins is a decent backup QB going against 2nd and 3rd stringers, what happens when Aldrick plays against starters?

RG3 looks like crap right now, and if he is a bust, they don't have much at QB.

[mredskins]

Interesting quote from King's MMQB today.

There is a saying on the whiteboard in Rams general manager Les Snead’s office. “Build to dominate using Redskin picks!” it reads. The Rams made the mega-trade with Washington in 2012 that allowed their NFC neighbor to draft Robert Griffin III. The Rams, meanwhile, thought they had their quarterback of the future, and didn’t draft one until the sixth round this year in SMU’s Garrett Gilbert. And now those picks are gone.

Right now neither of these teams are loving life after that trade. I rather be the Skins then the Rams right now.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Interesting quote from King's MMQB today.



There is a saying on the whiteboard in Rams general manager Les Snead’s office. “Build to dominate using Redskin picks!” it reads. The Rams made the mega-trade with Washington in 2012 that allowed their NFC neighbor to draft Robert Griffin III. The Rams, meanwhile, thought they had their quarterback of the future, and didn’t draft one until the sixth round this year in SMU’s Garrett Gilbert. And now those picks are gone.



Right now neither of these teams are loving life after that trade. I rather be the Skins then the Rams right now.

They gambled and lost big time on Bradford.

[Bucket]

You Tube

That's why I'm not panicking. Shows everything needed to be successful in this league right now. I'm standing behind RG3 because I've seen him make the reads, and throws.

Kap for the 49ers hasn't lead the 49ers to a TD in the preseason either and has just as many turnovers as RG3. Yet, nobody wants to talk about it because they have Blaine Gabbert behind him who is also looking sharp.

It's an evaluation game. God coaches evaluate their talent and test their limits in meaningless game. There is no point in running the plays RG3 is comfortable running that work in a game that means nothing.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Interesting quote from King's MMQB today.

There is a saying on the whiteboard in Rams general manager Les Snead’s office. “Build to dominate using Redskin picks!” it reads. The Rams made the mega-trade with Washington in 2012 that allowed their NFC neighbor to draft Robert Griffin III. The Rams, meanwhile, thought they had their quarterback of the future, and didn’t draft one until the sixth round this year in SMU’s Garrett Gilbert. And now those picks are gone.

Right now neither of these teams are loving life after that trade. I rather be the Skins then the Rams right now.

Too much was made of those picks. The Skins had a first round pick every year before that trade and what did it amount to? Eternal suckitude and missing the playoffs every year. All the Orakpos and Kerrigans in the world won't get you anywhere unless you have a franchise QB. Let's hope we have one.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Interesting quote from King's MMQB today.

There is a saying on the whiteboard in Rams general manager Les Snead’s office. “Build to dominate using Redskin picks!” it reads. The Rams made the mega-trade with Washington in 2012 that allowed their NFC neighbor to draft Robert Griffin III. The Rams, meanwhile, thought they had their quarterback of the future, and didn’t draft one until the sixth round this year in SMU’s Garrett Gilbert. And now those picks are gone.

Right now neither of these teams are loving life after that trade. I rather be the Skins then the Rams right now.

Yeah, there were a lot of talking heads clamoring in January and April about how badly the Rams beat us in that trade and all of the great picks they got as a result. Well they still don't have a QB, apparently the player they got at #2 (Robinson) hasn't looked good at all, not to mention they haven't even reached .500 since the trade. Let Kiper, McShay, etc. get all frothy over the number of picks, I'll take results.

That being said, I'd be lying to say I'm not disappointed in how Griffin has looked overall in the preseason. I know it's a work in progress and he has the benefit of a full offseason to improve. I think the Cleveland game (overall good with a couple glaring mistakes) will be more indicative of what we will see from him early on than the Baltimore game. I think the running game and defense will carry the 1st quarter of the season and Griffin will round into form around midseason.

[CRedskinsRule]

Why I'm not gonna panic about our QB? Because I can't change it.

Also, because I do trust Gruden. After the first preseason game, and our run game was effective, how much more did we see? If he trusts that the team was effective at some parts of the offense, we didn't see it. That makes me believe he was using preseason exactly for what preseason is - getting coachable moments on tape.

[Chico23231]

Sucks for Bradford, but hey in our situation if something happens to RG3 at least we have a very serviceable back up.

[scowan]

There are some decison making problems going on with RG3 right now that I don't like. This running for the sideline and going out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage WITH THE BALL is driving me crazy. When you get close, throw the ball at the down maker up to the line of scrimmage out of bounds please!!!! An incompletion is better than a sack.

Also, I still don't see him stepping into throws. He is kind of all arms and upper body. Does he still doubt his knee? Must think and make decsions faster. Also, we have seen no read option where RG3 has KEPT the football. I know its preseason, but we need to burn Clowney and Watt with this in week one. They will bite and go for Almo. I'm not sure the Skins line can handle them but a read option will slow them down.

[MTK]

In order to improve you have to focus on your weaknesses. Doesn't make much sense to just focus on what you already do well.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

In order to improve you have to focus on your weaknesses. Doesn't make much sense to just focus on what you already do well.

What is RG3 doing well right now? From what I have seen its not much but like I said, there's still time to get thing ironed out. I'd really like to see him play at least a quarter in the final preseason game because it seems like he needs the live action reps.

BTW, all this QB controversy is baloney. There is no QB controversy because the Skins didnt give up all those draft pick for RG3 to not play. RG3 is the QB until something catastrophic happens.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

What is RG3 doing well right now? From what I have seen its not much but like I said, there's still time to get thing ironed out. I'd really like to see him play at least a quarter in the final preseason game because it seems like he needs the live action reps.



BTW, all this QB controversy is baloney. There is no QB controversy because the Skins didnt give up all those draft pick for RG3 to not play. RG3 is the QB until something catastrophic happens.

What does he do well? Put on the tape from 2012. Check tape from 2013 (it wasn't all bad considering the circumstances).

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

What does he do well? Put on the tape from 2012. Check tape from 2013 (it wasn't all bad considering the circumstances).

I know what he did well but what's he doing well now? He's not even close to the same player he was in 2012 (because if he was we wouldn't be having this discussion) and he did do some good things in 2013 but so far in 2014 he seems to be struggling with everything.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by irish

I know what he did well but what's he doing well now? He's not even close to the same player he was in 2012 (because if he was we wouldn't be having this discussion) and he did do some good things in 2013 but so far in 2014 he seems to be struggling with everything.

i think he is the same player. what happened in 2012 was a beautiful piece of coaching and scheming that constantly had RG3s first read wide open, a deadly PA bc of the read option/pistol formation and alfmo excelling at running the zone read.

until RG3 learns to see the field better, he needs to have the offense dialed down for him - i.e. only have him scan half the field on any given passing play. its unrealistic to expect him to see/read the entire field.

he is the same player as 2012 imo in terms of explosiveness/intangibles but he is being used/coached differently. but it is only preseason so who knows how he really will be used come reg season.