Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator

CRedskinsRule · 01-22-2017, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyerSkin

I think some of the comments on this issue on NFL.com and ESPN might have hit the head on the nail. With the uncertainty of Gruden/Cousins the gig might very well be only for one year, thus none of the big names were really that interested. Job security is the name of the game anywhere. Gruden and Kirk should have been extended for continuity's sake. I think Snyder just trapped the franchise into hiring second hand coaches. Once Gruden is gone it is back to square one. Nobody wants to work here. What we did to Shanny was terrible in hindsight.

Its not on Snyder. Its on Gruden for hiring Barry in the first place when good DCs were available

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MTK · 01-22-2017, 01:17 PM

It's ludicrous to think anybody would instantly make this D better with the current roster.

FlyerSkin · 01-22-2017, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

It's ludicrous to think anybody would instantly make this D better with the current roster.

Nobody thinks that. The big question is why didn't we get a proven winner. My previous post is what I am all about. My first post on the subject said I am more than willing to give the guy a shot. It will take 2 years minimum to get a top D created. The concern should be why we can't draw top talent or lose that talent. The uncertainty that seems to always hang over the head of our HC might be scaring folks off. By hedging our bets we might have screwed ourselves just as badly or actually worse off than if we pulled the trigger and extended Kirk and Gruden beforehand.

ethat001 · 01-22-2017, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

It's ludicrous to think anybody would instantly make this D better with the current roster.

Are you sure about that? I'd wager quite a few would make this team instantly better. They wouldn't have to do too much - we had the 28th rank D in yards, and historically bad 3rd down. It could be ludicrous to think someone could make it top 10 - no one is suggesting that. There is certainly a lack of talent on this team, but Barry was reportedly using concepts where players got confused, and was late sending in calls. It's possible that simply getting calls in time and simplyifing the defense could lead to an instant improvement -- to at least average level.

Anyway, lot of draft picks and tons of cap space in free agency, and if O fixes run game and red zone it would help even further. Lot of ways we can improve defense with a JAG (just-a-guy) d-coordinator.

Chico23231 · 01-22-2017, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ethat001

Are you sure about that? I'd wager quite a few would make this team instantly better. They wouldn't have to do too much - we had the 28th rank D in yards, and historically bad 3rd down. It could be ludicrous to think someone could make it top 10 - no one is suggesting that. There is certainly a lack of talent on this team, but Barry was reportedly using concepts where players got confused, and was late sending in calls. It's possible that simply getting calls in time and simplyifing the defense could lead to an instant improvement -- to at least average level.

Anyway, lot of draft picks and tons of cap space in free agency, and if O fixes run game and red zone it would help even further. Lot of ways we can improve defense with a JAG (just-a-guy) d-coordinator.

All good points, but looking at the defensive rooster the best coordinator couldn't turn this defense into a top 15 defense in the league...barry scheme was lacking for sure, but it's pretty obvious like Matty says it's only so much you can do.

sdskinsfan2001 · 01-22-2017, 01:39 PM

Hiring Manusky is like spending hours online looking at restaurants to go to, then just saying fuck it, and making a TV dinner.

SkinsGuru · 01-23-2017, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Hiring Manusky is like spending hours online looking at restaurants to go to, then just saying fuck it, and making a TV dinner.

i've done this way too many times . . . lol

Chico23231 · 01-22-2017, 01:48 PM

I'll give him a chance, but this is disappointing to say the least

Irrefutable · 01-22-2017, 01:54 PM

Give Greg a year and some talent. They must sign mid-level free agents on defense CB, S and LB. Then draft defense.

Must play a 4-3.... Kerrigan, Smith, and Murphy are not OLBs. And they have no NT

sdskinsfan2001 · 01-22-2017, 01:54 PM

Best part, the players will like playing for him. The worst part, reading that source regarding his 3rd down defenses from the Chargers days. That terrifies me as that is our biggest weakness here already.

Schneed10 · 01-22-2017, 01:58 PM

Gruden continues to show an inability to expand his hiring comfort zone. I get that Bradley had options, but Pettine remains available. He was so obviously the best resume out there.

This better work this year or Gruden needs to be fired. He appears to just be a good coach. I'm not seeing any of the necessary leadership qualities.

diehardskin2982 · 01-22-2017, 02:01 PM

The thing is that there are coaches on this staff that they did not want to lose (Pleasant and Olivadotti) and so this allows them to keep those pieces in house. Watch for Tomsula to possibly become D-Line Coach, promote Pleasant to secondary coach and hire Jeff Fitzgerald Outside linebackers coach. May even add an additional coach for safeties.

I hope they could add Pettine as a positional coach in some capacity.

sdskinsfan2001 · 01-22-2017, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

The thing is that there are coaches on this staff that they did not want to lose (Pleasant and Olivadotti) and so this allows them to keep those pieces in house. Watch for Tomsula to possibly become D-Line Coach, promote Pleasant to secondary coach and hire Jeff Fitzgerald Outside linebackers coach. May even add an additional coach for safeties.

I hope they could add Pettine as a positional coach in some capacity.

As far as I know, Pleasant has already left.

diehardskin2982 · 01-22-2017, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

As far as I know, Pleasant has already left.

Redskins blocked him, I believe still under contract.

OmahaRedskins · 01-22-2017, 02:45 PM

I like the move and have no issues with it. To me it's a win - win all the way around. That does not mean i would not have liked Wade or Pettine, but at the end it's a good move.

I only hope the fan base will get behind the move and give him a chance. I do not want to see post in November bitching about the move.

01-22-2017, 01:17 PM	#2
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sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 42 Posts: 20,577	Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator Hiring Manusky is like spending hours online looking at restaurants to go to, then just saying fuck it, and making a TV dinner. __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

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Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,021	Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator I'll give him a chance, but this is disappointing to say the least __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

01-22-2017, 01:54 PM	#9
Irrefutable The Starter Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,622	Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator Give Greg a year and some talent. They must sign mid-level free agents on defense CB, S and LB. Then draft defense. Must play a 4-3.... Kerrigan, Smith, and Murphy are not OLBs. And they have no NT

01-22-2017, 01:54 PM	#10
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 42 Posts: 20,577	Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator Best part, the players will like playing for him. The worst part, reading that source regarding his 3rd down defenses from the Chargers days. That terrifies me as that is our biggest weakness here already. __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

01-22-2017, 01:58 PM	#11
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator Gruden continues to show an inability to expand his hiring comfort zone. I get that Bradley had options, but Pettine remains available. He was so obviously the best resume out there. This better work this year or Gruden needs to be fired. He appears to just be a good coach. I'm not seeing any of the necessary leadership qualities. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

01-22-2017, 02:01 PM	#12
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator The thing is that there are coaches on this staff that they did not want to lose (Pleasant and Olivadotti) and so this allows them to keep those pieces in house. Watch for Tomsula to possibly become D-Line Coach, promote Pleasant to secondary coach and hire Jeff Fitzgerald Outside linebackers coach. May even add an additional coach for safeties. I hope they could add Pettine as a positional coach in some capacity. __________________ That got ugly fast

01-22-2017, 02:45 PM	#15
OmahaRedskins Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 822	Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator I like the move and have no issues with it. To me it's a win - win all the way around. That does not mean i would not have liked Wade or Pettine, but at the end it's a good move. I only hope the fan base will get behind the move and give him a chance. I do not want to see post in November bitching about the move.

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