Why the media doesn't believe in Gibbs

GoSkins! · 10-07-2005, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Cooley 350Z

If we are going to analyze every missed field goal by our opponents, then let's also analyze every field goal we've missed as well

Exactly. Good teams make the plays when they need them most. Moss against Dallas this year, Novak...

Remember that it was Riggins on 4th down breaking free and running into history that started the Gibbs legend. What if Miami stuffed him?

#56fanatic · 10-07-2005, 08:14 AM

Everyone is making a big deal out of LaVar. Fact is we are playing great D without him. We did last year, and so far this year we are too. I know we could probably be that much better with LaVar on the field, trust I would LOVE to have #56 crushing people. Williams knows more about defence and player personal in the tip of his little finger that all of us do combined. In the Washington Post this morning, Greg said LaVar is progressing and will PROBABLY see more playing time this weekend. We all have to understand that the coaches have not been able to view LaVAr on the field the last two seasons. They may be going on what they see from previous game film. We all know LaVar is a stud and should be playing, but its very clear he isn't going to touch the field until Williams and Gibbs feel he's not going to give up a big play and is ALWAYS going to be where he is supposed to be. prediction, Skins 27-14.

SKINSnCANES · 10-07-2005, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jamf

guys, if the teams we faced had made all their field goals, we would be 0-3. thats why we shouldnt be making plans for detroit.

I liked what i saw out of the offence last game. but they need to be more physical on offence to play "Gibbs Football". we arent pounding the ball. the line (which has played great) still doesnt dominate on run plays.

I agree completly. But I also think we are heading in the right direction. Luck made us 3-0. But the discipline, lack of penalaties, and consistent improvement will get us some more wins as well.

RedskinRat · 10-07-2005, 12:07 PM

If they get their missed field goals can we at least have some of the phantom call taken back and one or two turnovers we gave up negated.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-07-2005, 12:23 PM

I know it's come to a couple missed field goals, but it all balances out when you think of the way most of the games were called/played. There IS a certain amount of luck that comes into it, but unless it's ONE crucial call for one side or another, it all balances itself out in the end.

RedskinRat · 10-07-2005, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

...... it all balances itself out in the end.

Although that certainly WASN'T what we were saying last season.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-07-2005, 12:55 PM

Because of crucial calls going only for one team or another...

On a couple of occassions, even with crappy officating, I WAS like, "Wow, we really were just outplayed."

Because anybody can say, "Well, if our offense would have scored more points, those penalties wouldn't have mattered."

SKINSnCANES · 10-07-2005, 02:05 PM

had he made that field goal, and we lost last week, it wouldnt hvae been because of penalties. We only had two. It would have been becuase we played conservtively and didnt score.

5RINGS · 10-07-2005, 02:11 PM

To quote the Football Coach of the Dallas Cowboys

"You are what your record says you are"

Even if you hate parcells, you have to admit that he is right. It doesn't matter how. The Skins are 3-0. Undefeated. Looking Good. Unbeaten. Case Closed.

There will always be some bounces and luck and missed field goals in any Football game, but they generally even out.

Redskins_P · 10-07-2005, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 5RINGS

To quote the Football Coach of the Dallas Cowboys

"You are what your record says you are"

Even if you hate parcells, you have to admit that he is right. It doesn't matter how. The Skins are 3-0. Undefeated. Looking Good. Unbeaten. Case Closed.

There will always be some bounces and luck and missed field goals in any Football game, but they generally even out.

Great post 5RINGS (you don't know how hard it is for me to compliment a Cowboys fan

).

I've always respected Parcells. He tells it like it is.

SKINSnCANES · 10-07-2005, 02:26 PM

I loved the quote from Pacells last year about his QBs, something about how he knows he needs a qb but its not like he can just run out to the store and buy one.

Something of that context.

Longtimefan · 10-07-2005, 03:47 PM

Many fans and media alike sometimes have difficulty adopting JG"s philosophy because they see how intrenched he is in the older style of winning. They have a hard time buying into the " Core Redskins " concept because in the age of free agency they know how difficult it is to keep a team together for extended periods of time the way it was before. NFL coaches now have to make their program come together much faster in order to offset the turnover on teams from one year to the next. There's just not as much time to mold teams into cohesion the way it was in JG first tenure.

However I do see signs of progress, and if we are fortunate enough to be able to keep a "Core Group" together, keep winning games, the perception will change.

Daseal · 10-07-2005, 04:08 PM

I think winning right now, even though I don't feel confident with the wins we have (far too close) it's giving our squad some much needed confidence. When was the last time we won 3 games in a row?

I do think it's time to start opening up the offense a bit. We need to put more points up to be a real threat. I love our defense to death, but they can be a lot more effective if we're up by 10 or more.

Hog1 · 10-07-2005, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5RINGS

To quote the Football Coach of the Dallas Cowboys

"You are what your record says you are"

Even if you hate parcells, you have to admit that he is right. It doesn't matter how. The Skins are 3-0. Undefeated. Looking Good. Unbeaten. Case Closed.

There will always be some bounces and luck and missed field goals in any Football game, but they generally even out.

He's right! By the way .................Bill, We, the loyal Warpath members would appreciate it if you would look elsewhere for inspiration. It truly is discomforting to see you surfing Joe's mail for that............elusive edge!
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wheeler · 10-09-2005, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kope

I have kind of seen things the opposite. I think with players changing over so fast it is now a coaches league - before you could stock pile players who were great. Now you have to coach w/ what you have- which is why I think Gibbs old school character, discipline and hard work will be hard to beat. But what I think makes him special is how he gets folks to believe.

i believe,wer'e gonna kick in some horse teeth.........what a upset...it's good to believe your gonna win against a team your not supposed to,i haven't felt like this in a long time....it's great except i cant fickin sleep.............

10-07-2005, 08:14 AM	#17
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 51 Posts: 1,801	Re: Why the media doesn't believe in Gibbs Everyone is making a big deal out of LaVar. Fact is we are playing great D without him. We did last year, and so far this year we are too. I know we could probably be that much better with LaVar on the field, trust I would LOVE to have #56 crushing people. Williams knows more about defence and player personal in the tip of his little finger that all of us do combined. In the Washington Post this morning, Greg said LaVar is progressing and will PROBABLY see more playing time this weekend. We all have to understand that the coaches have not been able to view LaVAr on the field the last two seasons. They may be going on what they see from previous game film. We all know LaVar is a stud and should be playing, but its very clear he isn't going to touch the field until Williams and Gibbs feel he's not going to give up a big play and is ALWAYS going to be where he is supposed to be. prediction, Skins 27-14.

10-07-2005, 12:07 PM	#19
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: Why the media doesn't believe in Gibbs If they get their missed field goals can we at least have some of the phantom call taken back and one or two turnovers we gave up negated.

10-07-2005, 12:23 PM	#20
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Why the media doesn't believe in Gibbs I know it's come to a couple missed field goals, but it all balances out when you think of the way most of the games were called/played. There IS a certain amount of luck that comes into it, but unless it's ONE crucial call for one side or another, it all balances itself out in the end. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-07-2005, 12:55 PM	#22
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Why the media doesn't believe in Gibbs Because of crucial calls going only for one team or another... On a couple of occassions, even with crappy officating, I WAS like, "Wow, we really were just outplayed." Because anybody can say, "Well, if our offense would have scored more points, those penalties wouldn't have mattered." __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-07-2005, 02:05 PM	#23
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,455	Re: Why the media doesn't believe in Gibbs had he made that field goal, and we lost last week, it wouldnt hvae been because of penalties. We only had two. It would have been becuase we played conservtively and didnt score. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

10-07-2005, 02:11 PM	#24
5RINGS Closet Redskins Fan Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 495	Re: Why the media doesn't believe in Gibbs To quote the Football Coach of the Dallas Cowboys "You are what your record says you are" Even if you hate parcells, you have to admit that he is right. It doesn't matter how. The Skins are 3-0. Undefeated. Looking Good. Unbeaten. Case Closed. There will always be some bounces and luck and missed field goals in any Football game, but they generally even out.

10-07-2005, 02:26 PM	#26
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,455	Re: Why the media doesn't believe in Gibbs I loved the quote from Pacells last year about his QBs, something about how he knows he needs a qb but its not like he can just run out to the store and buy one. Something of that context. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

10-07-2005, 03:47 PM	#27
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Why the media doesn't believe in Gibbs Many fans and media alike sometimes have difficulty adopting JG"s philosophy because they see how intrenched he is in the older style of winning. They have a hard time buying into the " Core Redskins " concept because in the age of free agency they know how difficult it is to keep a team together for extended periods of time the way it was before. NFL coaches now have to make their program come together much faster in order to offset the turnover on teams from one year to the next. There's just not as much time to mold teams into cohesion the way it was in JG first tenure. However I do see signs of progress, and if we are fortunate enough to be able to keep a "Core Group" together, keep winning games, the perception will change.

10-07-2005, 04:08 PM	#28
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: Why the media doesn't believe in Gibbs I think winning right now, even though I don't feel confident with the wins we have (far too close) it's giving our squad some much needed confidence. When was the last time we won 3 games in a row? I do think it's time to start opening up the offense a bit. We need to put more points up to be a real threat. I love our defense to death, but they can be a lot more effective if we're up by 10 or more. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

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