Classless Coach Belichick

[12thMan]

Bottom line, people are sharply, I mean sharply divided on this. Whether you turn to ESPN, Comcast, CBS, or Warpath there are contrasting views and opinions on this one. Personally, I find it quite interesting and it will no doubt be a topic of heated debate for the balance of the season.

Two interesting scenerios that will make this very juicy: An AFC Championship showdown between the Pats and the Chargers because of what happened last year. Or The Pats receiving the Lombardi trophy from Goodell. Either will get tons of press coverage if it happens.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Honestly we should just cut him to send a message. We simply don't need guys like that.

LOL send what message?

That you want to cut valuable depth over a comment to the media?

Really smart.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

i wasnt mad at the Pats for running up the score, our hard-hittin skins D should have sent coach B a message by sending a few starters to the bench on a stretcher . . .

one commentator last night did say something i hadnt thought of . . . the fake spike when the pats were already cruising (then randy pushing off) was alil cheap. I understand doing that when your trying to tie or take the lead late in a game but when your cruising to victory and show a spike the other teams D players assume your going to spike it to kick a field goal so they (as a professional courtesy) just mush together with the O line and dont try and penetrate or get to the QB

I have to disagree with you here. If they had done that in the 4th quarter I would say it was BS; but they did it at the end of the 1st half, with the game at 17-0, so I'm fine with them trying to get another TD before the break.

[TheBigD]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Check your math, Cowchip fan. 52 - 49 = 3.

Why the insult? Why don't you check your math... it was 45-0 if they kicked a FG it would've made it 48-0.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

The people who think it's wrong to "run up the score" are sounding like 8-year olds.

Solely because I am a mod, I am going to resist speaking my true feelings about people who say things like this. But I will say that you can act with class and you can act without class and some people can't see the difference between the two.

[over the mountain]

your right art monk, it was only 17-0, my bad . . . well i stand by my moss pushing off statement (even though all the great wrs do it)!!!!

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

So, just because you think teams (and people) are humiliated every day that makes it right? Please. Just because things happen doesn't mean they should. It's called is/ought confusion, and you are definitely confused.

I'm not complaining about the opposing team scoring points. I'm complaining about BB not showing humility. It's a thing that humans (should) do -- regardless of your job, or how much you get paid. Don't twist words to suit your argument. Scoring points isn't the problem.

Yes, they are grown men. That is why they should behave in a more considerate and respectable manner. They could have stopped with 38 points, but they decided to add another 14. And, that's not a problem. It's just that they kept their starters in. That shows they were INTENTIONALLY trying to run up the score. Eight year olds are still learning how to behave in a considerate and respectable manner. Grown men should already know how to do that.

It is baffling that you think people asking for others to be considerate are acting like eight year olds, but people who couldn't care less about their fellow man are being "grown men". I am so disappointed in you.

It's not Belichick's job to show humility. Suppose he does nothing but call running plays and puts the scrubs in? If the third-string halfback breaks a run, should carry the torch of humility and kneel down before crossing into the endzone?

Don't forget, Belichick did exactly what you asked by pulling Brady and putting in Cassel. Admittedly, it apparently didn't happen at the point in the game which would have met your approval -- what's that point by the way? Is it 5 minutes to go? 10 minutes? And by what margin of score? What's that magical point when one passes from the "humility zone" and into mean-spiritedness? On that touchdown run, should Cassel have carried out Belichick's "humility" and run out of bounds?

Being humiliated is nobody's fault but the person who feels that way. No professional football player has a responsibility to refrain from doing his job to ensure his opponent isn't humiliated.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

your right art monk, it was only 17-0, my bad . . . well i stand by my moss pushing off statement (even though all the great wrs do it)!!!!

I'm just mad that we actually fell for that. I'm not as mad as I am at the fact that our defense seemed to be the only one's watching the game who didn't realize that Vrabel was going to slip out into the endzone, but mad nonetheless.

[Hail2em]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I find it hard to have any respect for a coach who runs up a score. There's no need to show up your opponent. It's a total lack of class and humility, and those that support such a thing are also lacking in class and humility.

Running up the score...lmao I dont think they would have run the score up if the skins could have stopped them, lets see if campbell held on to the ball, if we could cover the pats running backs...so on and so forth. quit crying about the score being run up. This site is all good when the skins do good and when they lose you people criticize the opponent. I just dont get it. I read some of these post and just laugh at them. pointr blank the redskins have alot of work to do to get to where they want/need to be and thats the bottom line. So whats it going to be this weekend when they play the jets? lmao

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Well, I heard Steve Young and Tom Jackson say it was wrong. So when you have players who played the game at the highest level saying they had a problem with what NE did then you have to wonder.

I would have had no problem with them kicking the field goal just like I had no problem with their backup trying to score because that is vastly different than having your starters throwing deep when you're already up by 7 scores.

Your right. I saw Tom J. and Steve Y on ESPN saying "it was wrong" and "you don't need to do that." So there are two sides.

I just think we need to adopt a different mentality around here. I mean our coaching staff makes more $ than anyone yet I feel we are one of the more poorly coached team in the NFL.

Would you ever see us do a fake spike and then try to score? No. Would you ever see us try a trick play on special teams? Fake FG, or punt? No. Would you eve see us come out in a hurry up offense? No. Would you ever see us try and get the backs more involved in the passing game besides throwing screens? No. Do we ever put the Qb in shotgun on 1st down, just to give the defense something else to think about? No.

I could go on and on. My point is that should have been the attitude we should have had going up to NE. Hit em with everything and empty the playbook. Instead we go out with no game plan and no adjustments at all.

It's time for Gibbs to go. I've seen enough in 3 1/2 years.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Being humiliated is nobody's fault but the person who feels that way. No professional football player has a responsibility to refrain from doing his job to ensure his opponent isn't humiliated.

I don't think anyone has said they have such a responsibility. I have a responsibility to not kill, maim, kidnap, rape, or assault anybody. I do NOT have a responsibility to act like an a**hole. Although I do not not have a responsibility to refrain from acting like an a**hole, I still don't. Some people just don't have that filter (i.e., class).

Tell me what purpose Bill Belichick served by needlessly running up the score? By the middle of the 3rd quarter it was clear that he was going to win the game. Stats don't mean s--t to guys like Brady and Belichick, right? So, basically they risked injury to their players for no other purpose than to run up the score and embarass the Redskins. To me, that SHOUTS stupidity and a lack of class.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Solely because I am a mod, I am going to resist speaking my true feelings about people who say things like this. But I will say that you can act with class and you can act without class and some people can't see the difference between the two.

The funny thing is I'm sure there are plenty of 8-year olds out there that understand what sportsmanship is all better than some of the folks around here.

[Defensewins]

While I understand the sensitive nature of this subject after such a humiliating and humbling blow out, but we should never expect other teams and people to behave as we do. The Patriots are NOT show boats, big mouths, arrogant ass holes, or bully's that constantly start fights on the field. In fact they are the opposite. While they did run up the score....who cares. Tell me where in the world is there a etiquette rule about not running up the score? This is football not etiquette school.
In fact I am tired of hearing about the Pats disrespecting us. They did not. They kicked our asses fair and square and we do not have the talent to do anything about it.
We need a real GM.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Hail2em

Running up the score...lmao I dont think they would have run the score up if the skins could have stopped them, lets see if campbell held on to the ball, if we could cover the pats running backs...so on and so forth. quit crying about the score being run up. This site is all good when the skins do good and when they lose you people criticize the opponent. I just dont get it. I read some of these post and just laugh at them. pointr blank the redskins have alot of work to do to get to where they want/need to be and thats the bottom line. So whats it going to be this weekend when they play the jets? lmao

I love your grammar, punctuation, and frequent use of "lmao." What are you twelve? People who keep saying "quit crying," or "you're acting like babies," simply show that (a) they cannot put together an argument so they resort to stupid cliches and (b) that they have no idea what class means.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I'd really like someone to try to argue with the following:

Tell me what purpose Bill Belichick served by needlessly running up the score? By the middle of the 3rd quarter it was clear that he was going to win the game. Stats don't mean s--t to guys like Brady and Belichick, right? So, basically they risked injury to their players for no other purpose than to run up the score and embarass the Redskins. If they had some other purpose in running up the score, please do tell. If they did not have some other purpose in running up the score, does that show not only stupidity for risking injury to players and a lack of class?