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Old 12-19-2010, 10:53 PM   #1
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You mean the decision making done by the QB, and his ability to hit the targeted receiver?
no as in the actual play selection. when have we run that many screens or end a rounds to moss? it was a very different style today. i'm taking nothing from rex, he did have a pretty good game, but this was one of the most well called games by kyle thus far.
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Old 12-19-2010, 11:09 PM   #2
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no as in the actual play selection. when have we run that many screens or end a rounds to moss? it was a very different style today. i'm taking nothing from rex, he did have a pretty good game, but this was one of the most well called games by kyle thus far.

I suppose if Sally is right, then better play calling and execution was on display today.
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Old 12-19-2010, 11:11 PM   #3
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no as in the actual play selection. when have we run that many screens or end a rounds to moss? it was a very different style today. i'm taking nothing from rex, he did have a pretty good game, but this was one of the most well called games by kyle thus far.
KS was probably able to dig deeper into his bag of tricks with Rex's expanded knowledge of the offense.

The offense was scaled back for DM.
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Old 12-19-2010, 11:15 PM   #4
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no as in the actual play selection. when have we run that many screens or end a rounds to moss? it was a very different style today. i'm taking nothing from rex, he did have a pretty good game, but this was one of the most well called games by kyle thus far.
it was probably a better called game because grossman understands the playbook better than mcnabb, thus kyle can call the plays he really wants to and does not feel "hindered" by his QB.
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:45 PM   #5
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Rex looked very sharp out there today -- he seemed to be much more confident and more settled than Dmac.

I figured he would look rusty today.
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Old 12-20-2010, 09:04 AM   #6
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Rex looked very sharp out there today -- he seemed to be much more confident and more settled than Dmac.

I figured he would look rusty today.
His 1st half wasn't anything great: 7/13 108 yds 1 TD, 1 INT

But his second half, wow: 18/30 214 yds 3 TD 1 INT
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First quarter was rough. Should be interesting to see what next week brings.
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From the WaPo's resident provider of sunshine and lollypops Sally Jenkins:

The word from inside Redskins Park was that the Shanahans have been frustrated for weeks by the fact that McNabb either couldn't or wouldn't absorb Kyle Shanahan's offense and make the correct reads, and that he only wanted to do the things that made him comfortable. His inflexibility limited the play-calling options, and his inconsistency too often put them in difficult long-yardage situations. Hence, he never improved in 13 games. Those judgments now seem correct.

The word from the McNabb side is that the Shanahans didn't do enough to accommodate his improvisational talents, that Kyle Shanahan still has a lot to learn that he didn't do enough to make the freelance-happy McNabb more effective, and also protect him from sacks behind a vulnerable line. Perhaps a valid point, given that Grossman was sacked five times.
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The word from inside Redskins Park was that the Shanahans have been frustrated for weeks by the fact that McNabb either couldn't or wouldn't absorb Kyle Shanahan's offense and make the correct reads, and that he only wanted to do the things that made him comfortable. His inflexibility limited the play-calling options, and his inconsistency too often put them in difficult long-yardage situations. Hence, he never improved in 13 games. Those judgments now seem correct.

The word from the McNabb side is that the Shanahans didn't do enough to accommodate his improvisational talents, that Kyle Shanahan still has a lot to learn that he didn't do enough to make the freelance-happy McNabb more effective, and also protect him from sacks behind a vulnerable line. Perhaps a valid point, given that Grossman was sacked five times.
Man...this sounds soooo eerily similar to AH's complaints it's scary......it's just that McNabb was classier....
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^ you know maybe 5 never really wanted to play in Wsh, maybe he wanted to go to Minnesota but Philly didn't want to trade him there?
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Man...this sounds soooo eerily similar to AH's complaints it's scary......it's just that McNabb was classier....
I think it's very clear that Shanny, father and son, are very much setting up a my way or highway approach to the roster. If Fat Al and Mc5 are sacrifices and we end up with a roster of winners, so be it. It had just better not backfire on them.
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The word from the McNabb side is that the Shanahans didn't do enough to accommodate his improvisational talents, that Kyle Shanahan still has a lot to learn that he didn't do enough to make the freelance-happy McNabb more effective, and also protect him from sacks behind a vulnerable line. Perhaps a valid point, given that Grossman was sacked five times.
Yeah, I'm sorry but if he can't hang with a new offensive scheme, maybe it is time he packed it in. I realize he tends to fare better on-the-fly, but I seriously don't think he's good enough to be insisting that the offense be built around his improv skills. The dude's not Michael Vick.
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The word from inside Redskins Park was that the Shanahans have been frustrated for weeks by the fact that McNabb either couldn't or wouldn't absorb Kyle Shanahan's offense and make the correct reads, and that he only wanted to do the things that made him comfortable. His inflexibility limited the play-calling options, and his inconsistency too often put them in difficult long-yardage situations. Hence, he never improved in 13 games. Those judgments now seem correct.

The word from the McNabb side is that the Shanahans didn't do enough to accommodate his improvisational talents, that Kyle Shanahan still has a lot to learn that he didn't do enough to make the freelance-happy McNabb more effective, and also protect him from sacks behind a vulnerable line. Perhaps a valid point, given that Grossman was sacked five times.
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Good read
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Old 12-20-2010, 10:06 AM   #15
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From the WaPo's resident provider of sunshine and lollypops Sally Jenkins:

The word from inside Redskins Park was that the Shanahans have been frustrated for weeks by the fact that McNabb either couldn't or wouldn't absorb Kyle Shanahan's offense and make the correct reads, and that he only wanted to do the things that made him comfortable. His inflexibility limited the play-calling options, and his inconsistency too often put them in difficult long-yardage situations. Hence, he never improved in 13 games. Those judgments now seem correct.

The word from the McNabb side is that the Shanahans didn't do enough to accommodate his improvisational talents, that Kyle Shanahan still has a lot to learn that he didn't do enough to make the freelance-happy McNabb more effective, and also protect him from sacks behind a vulnerable line. Perhaps a valid point, given that Grossman was sacked five times.
I guess we need our WR's to run their routs 5 yards shorter then normal and dive to the turf so they could be in position to catch his passes before they hit the ground.
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