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Old 01-11-2008, 11:08 AM   #1
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Re: Do you trust Snyder?

President? GM? Those are just titles really.

Anyhow, we obviously are looking at young coaches (heck even Williams is only 49). We have been building some depth through the draft, expect more now as we keep most of our picks, we are making small splashes in free agency.

Look, this all goes back to was Gibbs able to reshape the culture at Redskins Park during his four years here. Obviously we don't know for sure. But we'll always have those who are deadset against ever thinking Snyder actually cares about this team and he's just looking to profit. Dick Clark Productions, Six Flags, Johnny Rockets those are his "business" The Redskins are his passion.

Has he made mistakes? Of course. Will he make more? No question. But to say he's not putting forth any effort, and to just assume that everything Gibbs worked toward establishing is automatically gone now is crazy.
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:25 AM   #2
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He will do the right thing if his hire does not require major changes in the locker room and on the rest of the coaching staff. I think we got a good thing going.
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I trust his intentions...he cares deeply about the redskins. However, I do not trust his decision making when it comes to football matters.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:00 PM   #4
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No in-house disgussion necessary. GW knows he has the job Dan S. is just making his rounds. Done deal pal.... GW all the way!
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My perception of Snyder changed dramatically for the good after Sean Taylor's death. He did everything a human could do to help not only Taylor's family, but the Redskins organization as a whole. However, if he doesn't even give Williams at least a sniff of the H.C. position, I will have lost whatever respect I regained for him. If what I've read and heard is true, if Williams is not named as Gibbs replacement, the majority of the locker room will revolt.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:37 PM   #6
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My perception of Snyder changed dramatically for the good after Sean Taylor's death. He did everything a human could do to help not only Taylor's family, but the Redskins organization as a whole. However, if he doesn't even give Williams at least a sniff of the H.C. position, I will have lost whatever respect I regained for him. If what I've read and heard is true, if Williams is not named as Gibbs replacement, the majority of the locker room will revolt.
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My perception of Snyder changed dramatically for the good after Sean Taylor's death. He did everything a human could do to help not only Taylor's family, but the Redskins organization as a whole. However, if he doesn't even give Williams at least a sniff of the H.C. position, I will have lost whatever respect I regained for him. If what I've read and heard is true, if Williams is not named as Gibbs replacement, the majority of the locker room will revolt.
So what now hiring a head coach is a popolarity contest. If you polled my employees if they would like friday's off they would vote 100% yes. If I don't give them Friday off are they going to quite or revolt? NO. He is still the owner and they are the employees and if they did revolt then maybe they are not of the carater as we thought of them after the season. If Gibbs did not want GW to replace him will you still feel the same way?
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[QUOTE=firstdown;406111]So what now hiring a head coach is a popolarity contest. If you polled my employees if they would like friday's off they would vote 100% yes. If I don't give them Friday off are they going to quite or revolt? NO. He is still the owner and they are the employees and if they did revolt then maybe they are not of the carater as we thought of them after the season. If Gibbs did not want GW to replace him will you still feel the same way?[/QUOTE]

Of course not, you misunderstood my point. I'm simply stating that in the essence of continuity, it would make sense to hire Williams as the H.C. given that he already has the apparent majority of support of the current roster. This obviously would not be a scenario of the inmates running the asylum as you suggest. While Williams may, or may not be, the answer to the 'Skins leadership role, he has been an asset to the organization and derserves at least a shot at it. I'm just hoping that Snyder makes a level headed selection and sets aside any temptation to hire someone simply to make a splash. This team needs to continue down the path of stability. Finally, it is irrelevant whether or not Gibbs wanted Williams as a replacement. Due to his performance (minus one season), and his loyalty, he deserves a look. Do any of those traits matter to you as an employer??
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Re: Do you trust Snyder?

The fact that he interviewed a no-name like Schwartz tells me that Snyder's not necessarily going for the biggest name guys anymore. Perhaps he's trying to unearth the next Joe Gibbs, who was also largely anonymous when he came here the first time at a similar age to Schwartz.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:58 PM   #10
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To answer the original question posed by this thread: Not by a long shot. I'm optimistic. I HOPE he's going to make good decisions. But I will not believe it until I see it.
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Old 01-11-2008, 01:33 PM   #11
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Re: Do you trust Snyder?

It is not a matter of trust, it is a matter of football knowledge and ability.
Dan Snyder like Jack Kent Cooke is an incredible businessman. However Mr. Cooke did not have the ego that Mr. Snyder has to believe he has the experience and skills to make all of the major football operation decisions. Mr. Cooke hired professionals, let them do their jobs and held them accountable. Mr. Cooke won three super bowls.
Mr. Snyder on the other hand has won one playoff game in eight years?

I really think Mr. Snyder saw Jerry Jones of the Cowboys and thought he could do what Jerry Jones is doing. The problems is Jerry Jones had a huge football background before he took charge of the Cowboys. Jones was a star running back at North Little Rock High School and eventually received a scholarship to play guard at the University of Arkansas. Among his Arkansas teammates were Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer, both of whom he would later hire to coach the Cowboys.
Snyder on the other hand does not have any football background other than watching the Redskins on TV. He did not even play football in high school.
What makes him think he can run football operations for a billion dollar team?
Mr. Snyder, let a professional make you look good, you are in over your head.
You are competing against football professionals. You are not a football professional.
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Old 01-11-2008, 02:04 PM   #12
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Wow Defensewins, the NFL game and high school/college (especially when Jerry Jones played college) are soo different. Having played football as a youth gives Jones no advantage over Snyder as a "football man" other than being a more athletic youngster. Is that really an advantage for an owner or General Manager?

I think people who already have their negative opinions of Snyder set in stone are trying to rationalize to themselves why the Redskins can't be successful with him.
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Old 01-11-2008, 02:15 PM   #13
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Wow Defensewins, the NFL game and high school/college (especially when Jerry Jones played college) are soo different. Having played football as a youth gives Jones no advantage over Snyder as a "football man" other than being a more athletic youngster. Is that really an advantage for an owner or General Manager?

I think people who already have their negative opinions of Snyder set in stone are trying to rationalize to themselves why the Redskins can't be successful with him.
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Old 01-11-2008, 02:31 PM   #14
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Of course JKC had an ego. And it got in HIS way too. The short version of why he couldn't manage to leave his team to his son is that he had it figured out how he could evade loads of estate taxes with his monumentally complicated estate plan and it all came crashing down like a house of cards because of two factors. One was that the actual value of the Chrysler Bldg in NYC - which he owned - wasn't worth nearly what he thought it was. Two was that he drained off too high a fraction of his liquid assets in building Jack Kent Cooke Stadium in RalJon Maryland to create a monument to himself. Check the name of the "town" he fictionalized as the home of his stadium to realize how much of a monument to himself all of that was.

JKC was not a meddling owner in the way Danny Boy was/is. So the only things he did that might annoy fans was when he took to the microphone once or twice a year and droned on and on and on in his sing-song voice. Danny Boy keeps a much higher profile than that.

Just one example: Danny Boy scouts college talent and convinces the "football people" to draft that strong armed QB he found named Patrick Ramsey. Danny Boy wants people to think he is part of making the Redskins a winner because he knows about football. JKC didn't do that kind of thing. All JKC did was to spend his money lavishly on the team. To be fair, JKC didn't have to worry about salary caps for most of his tenure as owner and Danny Boy does.

JKC maintained an image of an eccentric old coot whose marriages were sure to provide grist for gossip columns and humor writers. Danny Boy seems to have generated an image of an arrogant young know-it-all who has yet to show that he even knows more than a little bit about putting together a winning football team.

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Old 01-11-2008, 02:41 PM   #15
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Of course JKC had an ego. And it got in HIS way too. The short version of why he couldn't manage to leave his team to his son is that he had it figured out how he could evade loads of estate taxes with his monumentally complicated estate plan and it all came crashing down like a house of cards because of two factors. One was that the actual value of the Chrysler Bldg in NYC - which he owned - wasn't worth nearly what he thought it was. Two was that he drained off too high a fraction of his liquid assets in building Jack Kent Cooke Stadium in RalJon Maryland to create a monument to himself. Check the name of the "town" he fictionalized as the home of his stadium to realize how much of a monument to himself all of that was.

JKC was not a meddling owner in the way Danny Boy was/is. So the only things he did that might annoy fans was when he took to the microphone once or twice a year and droned on and on and on in his sing-song voice. Danny Boy keeps a much higher profile than that.

Just one example: Danny Boy scouts college talent and convinces the "football people" to draft that strong armed QB he found named Patrick Ramsey. Danny Boy wants people to think he is part of making the Redskins a winner because he knows about football. JKC didn't do that kind of thing. All JKC did was to spend his money lavishly on the team. To be fair, JKC didn't have to worry about salary caps for most of his tenure as owner and Danny Boy does.

JKC maintained an image of an eccentric old coot whose marriages were sure to provide grist for gossip columns and humor writers. Danny Boy seems to have generated an image of an arrogant young know-it-all who has yet to show that he even knows more than a little bit about putting together a winning football team.

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Well your disdain of Snyder is well documented both here, and on your own site. Quite honestly, it's hard to expect much of a reasoned argument from you on this when you keep referring to him as Danny Boy. Already you're being dismissive in simply referring to him that way. So I defer to the opinions of others on this topic.

Further, yes Ramsey was a bad move on his part. And he's also suggested, key word: suggested, other players which the Redskins ultimately chose not to draft. Also, he did recommend Rock Cartwright and he hasn't been too bad for a 7th rounder.

Defensewins, my apologies to you. I didn't read what you wrote clearly enough. I always get baffled/annoyed though when people-as they often do, but not in your case her-assume JKC was some sort of humble pious man who never got involved in any of the decision making of the team. All he did was write checks. All that is untrue. Plus, as everyone knows, the salary cap era has radically changed how you can build a roster. To compare the two eras is not fair.
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