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Old 10-27-2009, 10:41 AM   #1
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Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect

Playcalling wasn't an issue, just like alot of others have said the execution from JC and the Oline is awful. ARE can't be returning kicks any more. That ball hitting him in the face was laughable. I really don't mind this anymore, I find this team very funny.
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Old 10-27-2009, 11:25 AM   #2
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Playcalling wasn't an issue, just like alot of others have said the execution from JC and the Oline is awful. ARE can't be returning kicks any more. That ball hitting him in the face was laughable. I really don't mind this anymore, I find this team very funny.
The sad part about the ARE situation with punt returns is that the problem was identifyied in the off-season. Management knew the problem needed to be addressed, brougt in a couple players to compete and failed to keep any of them. Insteadd they talked about Anthony Alridge fumbling in a meaningless pre-season game. Well this is the real deal, real games and our #1 PR is costing us real games........fumbling.
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Old 10-27-2009, 11:36 AM   #3
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The sad part about the ARE situation with punt returns is that the problem was identifyied in the off-season. Management knew the problem needed to be addressed, brougt in a couple players to compete and failed to keep any of them. Insteadd they talked about Anthony Alridge fumbling in a meaningless pre-season game. Well this is the real deal, real games and our #1 PR is costing us real games........fumbling.
Lets see we had 3 different guys try to return punts with the same result last night. Its not the returners its the blocking or the lack of blocking that is the problem.
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Old 10-27-2009, 11:44 AM   #4
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Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect

I thought that Sherm Lewis did a few different things but overall the change was not significant. I thought that the game showed that play calling was not at the center of our offensive woes.

Haynesworth is right. We lack fire and this is our biggest problem.
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Lets see we had 3 different guys try to return punts with the same result last night. Its not the returners its the blocking or the lack of blocking that is the problem.
I agree with that assessment, and it's been that way for a long time now. Regardless of who we had as the return man, he would always be surrounded by would be tacklers simultaneous with catching the ball.

Even for the short period we had "primetime" here he couldn't get the job done either for te same reasons.
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:28 AM   #6
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Lets see we had 3 different guys try to return punts with the same result last night. Its not the returners its the blocking or the lack of blocking that is the problem.
Hall never got a chance, it went out. Moss scored last year with the same shoddy blocking and came close to breaking another one. He just falls to his side easier than ARE now.
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Old 10-27-2009, 11:53 AM   #7
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Playcalling wasn't an issue, just like alot of others have said the execution from JC and the Oline is awful. ARE can't be returning kicks any more. That ball hitting him in the face was laughable. I really don't mind this anymore, I find this team very funny.
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:42 AM   #8
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Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect

Playcalling WAS a concern before though. We actually went for TDs and passed near the goal line...and scored. No more stretch plays on crucial downs, no more obvious playcalls. Thomas and Davis were involved. Yes, David was more involved due to Cooley's injury, but he was in the game and productive like never before. Also, using 2 halfbacks in the backfield at times gave us an added dimension and it worked fairly well considering we have no line. We also used the shotgun a lot more than under Zorn, something we were all asking for since the line can't block. It was very effective when Rabach was able to actually get the ball snapped into JC's hands. I was very pleased with the selection of plays and the lack of predictability.
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:27 AM   #9
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Playcalling WAS a concern before though. We actually went for TDs and passed near the goal line...and scored. No more stretch plays on crucial downs, no more obvious playcalls. Thomas and Davis were involved. Yes, David was more involved due to Cooley's injury, but he was in the game and productive like never before. Also, using 2 halfbacks in the backfield at times gave us an added dimension and it worked fairly well considering we have no line. We also used the shotgun a lot more than under Zorn, something we were all asking for since the line can't block. It was very effective when Rabach was able to actually get the ball snapped into JC's hands. I was very pleased with the selection of plays and the lack of predictability.
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Old 10-27-2009, 12:03 PM   #10
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Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect

The playcalling was fine. The execution sucked. When a team cannot execute the fundamentals of football like quarterback snap, catching a punt, blocking, tackling and pass coverage, it doesn't matter what play is called. There were people open on most of the plays called. Pass protection was the biggest problem and ball security was the second biggest problem.
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Old 10-27-2009, 12:03 PM   #11
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I really want to ask the biggest underlying question: How much of yesterday's game, good and bad, were tied to the introduction of Sherman Lewis......Maybe less specific but also:
more confusion in the pass pro, without Zorn in his ear did Campbell miss setting assignments

Also was the playcalling better, or just different?
I haven't gone back and re-watching the game but this is what i saw:

o We moved the ball
o He got Jason on the move with roll-outs
o There was more motion and shifting
o There were more formations
**Lol, Someone should have told Lewis that Fred Davis is a suspect blocker

The Most meaningful difference?
o **We threw the ball in the RZ inside the 10 yardline and we scored!!**
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Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect

The effect was a 27-17 loss. That's all folks!
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:29 AM   #13
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The effect was a 27-17 loss. That's all folks!
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:23 PM   #14
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Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect

I thought play calling was way better than Zorn's play calling, if you don't see a difference you weren't watching the game. We passed the ball inside the 20 and we scored, and would have scored more if Rabach doesn't goof off the ball. The offense actually had some flow and rythm to it, what stopped it was J Campbell throwing late OFTEN and fumbling the ball (ARE also) had JC manned up we would have won. I sy kudos to Sherm Lewis he called a very imaginative game that wasn't predictable like when Zorn was calling plays..
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Old 10-27-2009, 02:45 PM   #15
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Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect

In two weeks (of prep time) he equaled our best offensive production against the second best team we have played this year. I consider that pretty good? It will be interesting to see what happens over the bye
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