Condoms For First Graders?

[budw38]

Originally Posted by saden1

The schools job is not to monitor your kid's sexual activity...I don't think that's in their mandate. You should be grateful they're providing services that insures your kid doesn't catch AIDS. If your kid takes a free condom they're not giving it to them. It's all on you! Always!

Exactly , the schools SHOULD NOT be monitoring , or" encouraging" sexual activity ... the school should not be undermining the parents . By giving the kids condoms , the school is monitoring , interfering with parenting . So , if a teacher gave a kid a bottle of seagrams to a student , but provided a seatbelt and buckled it for him before he drove on one of our public roads , we should be greatful for " service provided " ? We are talking about 6 year olds , if the school gives a 6 year old a condom , they are now the problem , just as a school giving a kid alcohol , cocaine or a loaded gun . Just curious to those who think the schools should be giving condoms to six year olds . If a 6 year old was getting bullied everyday , would you be ok with the school giving the kid a gun to protect himself ??

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by budw38

Exactly , the schools SHOULD NOT be monitoring , or" encouraging" sexual activity ... the school should not be undermining the parents . By giving the kids condoms , the school is monitoring , interfering with parenting . So , if a teacher gave a kid a bottle of seagrams to a student , but provided a seatbelt and buckled it for him before he drove on one of our public roads , we should be greatful for " service provided " ? We are talking about 6 year olds , if the school gives a 6 year old a condom , they are now the problem , just as a school giving a kid alcohol , cocaine or a loaded gun . Just curious to those who think the schools should be giving condoms to six year olds . If a 6 year old was getting bullied everyday , would you be ok with the school giving the kid a gun to protect himself ??

Nice to see a voice of reason here. Hit the nail on the head. However, I'm not sure you're in as much agreement with Saden as your "exactly" statement would indicate...he seems to be open to handing kids condoms with their boxes of jumbo crayons and juice boxes.

[mredskins]

Here is a question that begs to be asked in relation to the argument.

Can you even physical have sex in first grade? I don't think all the parts work.

With my son we just say the proper names for all his parts, a hand is hand, a foot is a foot, a penis is a penis not a pee pee or some other silly name. He is two and he knows me and him have a penis and his mom has a vagina.

Lot of this kids are having sex becasue it is so taboo or mysterious. I rather my son know the facts and the consequences of sex rather then sweep it under the rug and tell him Jesus says you should not do that it is taboo.

Is it so horrible a 1st grader understands how babies are made? I guess I rather teach my son at appropriate levels in his life about sex rather then him figuring it out from a Hustler he stole and/or playing with Mary across the street.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Here is a question that begs to be asked in relation to the argument.

Can you even physical have sex in first grade? I don't think all the parts work.

With my son we just say the proper names for all his parts, a hand is hand, a foot is a foot, a penis is a penis not a pee pee or some other silly name. He is two and he knows me and him have a penis and his mom has a vagina.

Lot of this kids are having sex becasue it is so taboo or mysterious. I rather my son know the facts and the consequences of sex rather then sweep it under the rug and tell him Jesus says you should not do that it is taboo.

Is it so horrible a 1st grader understands how babies are made? I guess I rather teach my son at appropriate levels in his life about sex rather then him figuring it out from a Hustler he stole and/or playing with Mary across the street.

Absolutely not...but instructions and encouragement to try it should not be in their lives.

Knowing how Mommy and Daddy made their baby sister is a far cry from getting an "insert Tab A into Slot B" sheet and a free condom to further engage the curiosity.

Some lessons are best left to parents to teach. Religion, sex and politics are among them.

Let the schools teach math, English and how to play kickball.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Buster

It is when concerned parents have to battle liberals in the education system who want to expose kids to homosexuality and any religion OTHER than Christianity, it's nearly impossible.

It's no shock that t-shirts of a horrible human being Che Guevera are so popular with teens these days, they're not being taught who he really was. He's being built up as some hero in the warped version of history being taught in an attempt to get the kids on "their" side.

Dude Matty said step out of the 1950's...Viva La Revolucion!!!

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

You're in the dark ages bro. Seriously. This is 2010 not 1950.

What a shit arguement. Maybe we need to head back to the 50's and the morals that people had back then because the way things are going now don't seem to work all that great. The more and more we have this free thinking that everything is good and ok the more our society goes to shit.

I'm sorry I started this thread today because I'm heading to Nags Head today and leaving right now as my wife and daughter just walked into my office. You guys should not attack each other personaly.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by firstdown

What a shit arguement. Maybe we need to head back to the 50's and the morals that people had back then because the way things are going now don't seem to work all that great. The more and more we have this free thinking that everything is good and ok the more our society goes to shit.

I'm sorry I started this thread today because I'm heading to Nags Head today and leaving right now as my wife and daughter just walked into my office. You guys should not attack each other personaly.

As long as Saden has an active password, personal attacks will fly...you should have known that.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by budw38

Exactly , the schools SHOULD NOT be monitoring , or" encouraging" sexual activity ... the school should not be undermining the parents . By giving the kids condoms , the school is monitoring , interfering with parenting . So , if a teacher gave a kid a bottle of seagrams to a student , but provided a seatbelt and buckled it for him before he drove on one of our public roads , we should be greatful for " service provided " ? We are talking about 6 year olds , if the school gives a 6 year old a condom , they are now the problem , just as a school giving a kid alcohol , cocaine or a loaded gun . Just curious to those who think the schools should be giving condoms to six year olds . If a 6 year old was getting bullied everyday , would you be ok with the school giving the kid a gun to protect himself ??

I don't think encouraging is the right word...the school is there to interfere alright, to your benefit not detriment. Intent of the school was to give to all students...it's fine.

I don't know how we went from condoms to guns...maybe you were thinking "how I would feel about the school giving out guns to kids?"

[Trample the Elderly]

Meanwhile the Chinese are pumping out engineers like hot cakes at a fraction of the cost.

I don't know about y'all, but I learned what it was all about working on farms as a kid. I mean you see animals screw all day long? No big deal. Maybe they should just take a field trip to a farm? It would be much cheaper and they could say, "Hey we're just trying to educate the children about the Planet". Problem solved.

Why is it the business of schools to give kids rubbers? It's not their job to protect children from STDs. Here's an idea, segregate the sexes at school, and they'll not screw.

I'd dig ditches before I'd send me kid to a public school.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by firstdown

What a shit arguement. Maybe we need to head back to the 50's and the morals that people had back then because the way things are going now don't seem to work all that great. The more and more we have this free thinking that everything is good and ok the more our society goes to shit.

I'm sorry I started this thread today because I'm heading to Nags Head today and leaving right now as my wife and daughter just walked into my office. You guys should not attack each other personaly.

lol you knew the shitstorm you were creating. You started off with your typical attack on liberals.

Perhaps my take on the 50s isn't accurate. Things weren't all that much different in the 50s. People were just better at keeping things private.

I should have referred to the stone ages. You and buster can probably relate better to that time.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Buster

As long as Saden has an active password, personal attacks will fly...you should have known that.

Serious question, have you ever been clinically diagnosed? It doesn't hurt to find out what is wrong with you, it's not the 1950s and there is no stigma associated with it anymore.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

lol you knew the shitstorm you were creating. You started off with your typical attack on liberals.

Perhaps my take on the 50s isn't accurate. Things weren't all that much different in the 50s. People were just better at keeping things private.

I should have referred to the stone ages. You and buster can probably relate better to that time.

Of course, any criticism of disagreement with a liberal idea is "attacking".

Sounds like the President...disagree with him and he'll threaten to "kick our @ss".


I don't take offense to being called old-fashioned when it comes to morality or principles.

Interesting how so many of the non-parents here want to dictate the way kids are to be taught.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

lol you knew the shitstorm you were creating. You started off with your typical attack on liberals.

Perhaps my take on the 50s isn't accurate. Things weren't all that much different in the 50s. People were just better at keeping things private.

I should have referred to the stone ages. You and buster can probably relate better to that time.

I few months ago I watched a few episodes of All in the Family and I Love Lucy....man, nothing has changed...same shit, different decade.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by saden1

I few months ago I watched a few episodes of All in the Family and I Love Lucy....man, nothing has changed...same shit, different decade.

Two great shows by the way.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Buster

Of course, any criticism of disagreement with a liberal idea is "attacking".

Sounds like the President...disagree with him and he'll threaten to "kick our @ss".


I don't take offense to being called old-fashioned when it comes to morality or principles.

Interesting how so many of the non-parents here want to dictate the way kids are to be taught.

Not trying to dictate anything. I didn't realize that having a kid was a prerequisite for chiming in on this conversation. If that's the case I'll bow out until I do have one, pretty sure my opinions aren't going to change though.